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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-23 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2729 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2729 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[killer is dead]


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03.
[Lackadaisy]


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04.
[Joe Trohman, Fall Out Boy]


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05.
[Yowamushi Pedal]


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06.
[How To Train Your Dragon 2]


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07.
[A Game of Thrones]


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08.
[Fruit's Basket]


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09.
[Community]


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10.
[Rythian, a.k.a Joakim Hellstrand]


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11.
[The Devil Wears Prada]


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12.
[Night Court]










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[personal profile] toku_mei 2014-06-24 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... I actually love the movie, it's so fun. But what a horrible ending. Maybe the book does it better, but Andy was trying her hardest to pursue her dream. Her boyfriend was sort of supportive in the beginning, but then wanted it all to be about him, and turned into a major dick. When she's trying to make amends with him at the end, he accuses her of doing it all for the fancy shoes and dresses, and she agrees. But that's total bullshit. I don't ever remember her becoming fashion obsessed, she just learned to appreciate it more, and how to dress appropriately for her job. Yes, the point of the movie is the cost of success, and that's fair enough. But it seemed in reality more about putting Andy in her place for daring to commit herself to a job that she was finally getting good at. Her boyfriend was such an asshole, and really at no point was Andy herself an asshole. Andy was pretty sympathetic and "the good girl" throughout the whole movie, even when she was accused of stealing opportunity from that other girl. If she had actually started to become like Miranda, maybe, but she was pretty much never that way.

Anyway. Yeah. Badly played out ending.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
The book and the movie both annoy the shit out of me, for pretty much the reasons you mention. And I liked them both but the whole heavy-handed moral, especially as delivered by the self-absorbed BF, fell very flat. I guarantee you I am not the only NYC person who read that book and thought "damn Andi, step aside, I would put up with that and more for both the opportunities you came away with and all that amazing fashion." And sorry, I felt bad for Lily but Andi should not have been expected to drop EVERYTHING to rush to her side. That is simply not how NYC works. Not at all. People work VERY hard here, your career is very important, and her friends and family all should've realized that. PS: I did a couple of temp gigs at Vogue for ALT and the swag--for just a TEMP--was AMAZING.
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[personal profile] toku_mei 2014-06-24 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't even read the book. As far as I remember in the movie, Miranda decides that Andi should accompany her to Paris instead of the other woman (Lily?). I mean, Miranda is the boss and made a business decision - Andi was simply better at her job than Lily. Why the heck should Andi have said no? This is supposed to be the "turning point" when Andi is becoming like Miranda, because she threw a friend under the bus to get ahead, but it seriously didn't seem like that to me. She had every right to do her job to the best of her ability, and take opportunities her boss gives her, without being labeled a heartless bitch for it.

I think most ambitious, competitive "career" jobs are like that. I think the sacrifice for a successful career is a very interesting topic, but I just felt the movie didn't really show us what kind of sacrifice Andi was actually making, except her "friends" who didn't really support her at all.

I want swag. D: Did you get fancy shoes and dresses at Vogue?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Shit, it's been awhile, like over 10 years. No fancy dresses/shoes that I recall but I was shown this closet full of hair swag (major conditioner--the GOOD stuff, that really, really helped my hair, this shit lasted for at least five years), plus other mostly hair/cosmetic stuff. Honestly, it's been a long time, I just remember thinking ALT was super nice and I caught a few glimpses of AW. Basically everyone in the office was kind of tense but really nice and I walked away with major hair and cosmetics swag. And I got to eat the the famous Conde Nast cafeteria, which was gorgeous :)

Andi had a great opportunity! To this day I don't think that novel had the impact Lauren What'sHerName wanted--she saw it as a cautionary tale, a lot of us saw it as "hey, I could do that..." What I saw of the Conde Nast office wasn't that bad at ALL. Andre for one is a sweetheart.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. Andy didn't want the job, but she had it and she did a good job despite the difficulties and all her should have been supporters were assholes because she wouldn't make it all about them.

Ugh. I kept reading and being pissed off with all her friends and family who refused to be understanding. I mean, she had to work, it wasn't like she was hanging out in bars getting drunk and blowing them off.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
She was only partially pursuing her dream at Runway. Andrea planned to use that job as a stepping stone for the writing she really wanted to do, remaining there for one year to pad her resume. In one of my favorite movie moments, Nigel calls her out on her dickish behavior. Nigel was pursuing his dream there, and her lack of commitment was a huge stumblingblock in their relationship.

Problem was (at least for Andrea), the resulting priority shift in her life left her boyfriend feeling like he'd been supplanted, and he was justifiably angry. Not that the movie shows it, but who would Andrea vent to on a regular basis if not Nate?

I loved the ending. Andrea gets her priorities right, seeking the job in the career path she's always wanted. Nate had done the same thing, but agreed to give their relationship another chance. In the end, everyone matures a little, and you're left with the hope that Andrea doesn't need to follow in Miranda's footsteps to succeed.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
You put it perfectly!