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For what kind of jobs, if I may ask?

I interviewed for advertising associate, lawyer's assistant, office manager, and contract manager for a small government contractor.

I got the contract manager job. This was when the Great Recession was full speed ahead so I considered getting an interview a win. When he went out of business (screwing your business partners is a bad idea u guise) I walked into a JC Penney's, applied, and got the job. When I was getting ready to leave that job, a customer told me about a non-profit dedicated to alternative fuels. I gave them a call, set up an interview, and got that job. Showing up with a resume is far better than going on the internet. It's harder, but the ROI is so much better.

While I was walking around a city, I'd give my resume to people in suits because I figured they were working, and the admin assistants would have bowls of candy on their desks. I'd put on my puppy eyes and they would give me candy. It was like trick-or-treating.

...you are a white male aren't you?

No. I'm a white woman. However, I am ballsier than most guys I know.

Question: why are people suddenly assuming I'm a white man? What the hell would that have to do with anything? My gender had nothing to do with why anyone hired me. My military background, my education, my nerve, and my ability to figure out that if something isn't working then I should try something else got me those jobs.

Edited 2014-06-25 01:50 (UTC)

Because hitting the pavement doesn't really work for most people these days. Like it just does not work. Most employers don't like it. A white male can get away with it because it makes them look like they have 'drive' and other jargaon bullshit. Where as others are considered 'desperate' for doing the same thing. And guess what companies don't want to hire the 'desperate'.

You being white probably had something to do with you not getting doors out right slammed in your face.

Look, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you've had shitty, soul-crushing time job hunting and as a result it's a touchy subject for you, but I think what you're saying here is pretty pessimistic and rude. Sure, icey sounds like she is was pretty lucky, and being white might have been a factor as well. But for you to turn around and tell assume she only got employed because you thought she was a white man, and then backtrack not effectively at all and while still jeering at her get go when you found out she's a woman - well, it's just not cool. Not cool to icey, and not cool to lots of other people reading this thread who might think twice about stepping out the door and handing out resumes because of your comment.

Sure, there might be workplaces who think you're 'desperate' for asking about jobs in person, but for every workplace that has that attitude I guarantee you that there are ten other workplaces that will be significantly more likely to hire you if they can put a face to a name. On top of that, actually going out and about will allow you to see jobs that might not be advertised online, and if you hand out resumes to places that aren't advertising at this moment you might end up being the first on the list if they start hiring next week, or the week after.

For some additional anecdata, in my social circle the majority of my friends got their jobs either through networking (which, by the way, is statistically the best way to get a job), volunteering somewhere and later applying for a paid position or - surprise surprise - handing out resumes in person or cold calling people. And this is a mix of non white and white women, btw.

TL;DR, icey is giving decent advice here, and you are being destructively fatalistic. There's no need for this attitude.

I had plenty of doors slammed in my face. I moved on to the next place and tried again.

Also, this was during the Great Recession. There were a lot of desperate people and all the employers knew that. But if 50 desperate people e-mail you and 1 desperate person shows up at your door, who is going to stand out?

My being white didn't have as much to do with it as my being awesome. :)

Edited 2014-06-25 13:18 (UTC)

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