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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-25 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2731 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Has "white-washed" changed its meaning again while I wasn't looking?
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends. Did you last check in 1762?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
be respectful vethica maybe that person is an immortal vampire still immersed in the style of the eighteenth century

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahahaha

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-06-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But if you checked in 1762 it'd mean painting fences.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. I was assuming anon had checked before the first attested figurative use of the word in 1762.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I assume anon has never encountered the term outside of sjw-jargon.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-25 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going with the vampire theory.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-25 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The vampire theory is obviously the superior one, and I espouse it myself. I was just playing devil's advocate.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'm Gackt.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
All this time I thought that you and Vethica were the same person (as in the same username with two icons). This is embarrassing.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-26 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I love it XD
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-26 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
...Really? I'm flattered!

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Dann, you are so ageist!

No, but seriously. Confused ESL here, I usually see that expression used when people refer to canon POC that get turned into white characters in different adaptions. Or is that a wrong way to use it that has become common through the SJW crowd?
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, sorry for the snark. :P Whitewashing has figuratively meant to conceal something's bad qualities for a while now. The race meaning isn't wrong, but it's a lot more recent.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's alright, I like snark.
Thanks for the explanation!

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
but how is that white? why would you wash anything white if it's not a color? you can wash a poc into white but you cannot wash an evil person white, you'll just change them into good ones.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't tell me the concept "dark/black=evil; light/white=good" is completely foreign to you.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's based on the the fact that whitewashing was originally a term for painting a fence over white, covering up blemishes and chips and such. Ergo, if you are whitewashing a character, you are covering up their bad deeds like you would cover up a fence with paint.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen it used around fandoms way before social justice came into vogue. When it was used, it was usually in reference to characters' bad deeds being glossed over so they wouldn't look as morally awful as they are.

The nice thing about English is that words can have multiple metaphorical meanings! (Granted, I've seen SJWs accuse people who use "whitewashing" in other contexts of being appropriative.)

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it also could be used for that, but since I had only ever seen the race versio, I wasn't sure. Thanks for the explanation!