[ SECRET POST #2731 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Because there are numerous examples of Cersei being a horrible awful person in the series whereas Tyrion's character is often white-washed to keep his snarky, rootable fan favorite status intact, often at the expense of other characters, most notably Sansa.

[(Anonymous)]

Has "white-washed" changed its meaning again while I wasn't looking?

[vethica]

Depends. Did you last check in 1762?

[(Anonymous)]

be respectful vethica maybe that person is an immortal vampire still immersed in the style of the eighteenth century

[(Anonymous)]

Hahahahaha

[herpymcderp]

But if you checked in 1762 it'd mean painting fences.

[vethica]

Yes. I was assuming anon had checked before the first attested figurative use of the word in 1762.

[ketita]

I assume anon has never encountered the term outside of sjw-jargon.

[vethica]

I'm going with the vampire theory.

[ketita]

The vampire theory is obviously the superior one, and I espouse it myself. I was just playing devil's advocate.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I'm Gackt.

[(Anonymous)]

All this time I thought that you and Vethica were the same person (as in the same username with two icons). This is embarrassing.

[ketita]

I love it XD

[vethica]

...Really? I'm flattered!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! Dann, you are so ageist!

No, but seriously. Confused ESL here, I usually see that expression used when people refer to canon POC that get turned into white characters in different adaptions. Or is that a wrong way to use it that has become common through the SJW crowd?

[vethica]

Okay, sorry for the snark. :P Whitewashing has figuratively meant to conceal something's bad qualities for a while now. The race meaning isn't wrong, but it's a lot more recent.

[(Anonymous)]

That's alright, I like snark.
Thanks for the explanation!

[(Anonymous)]

but how is that white? why would you wash anything white if it's not a color? you can wash a poc into white but you cannot wash an evil person white, you'll just change them into good ones.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't tell me the concept "dark/black=evil; light/white=good" is completely foreign to you.

[(Anonymous)]

It's based on the the fact that whitewashing was originally a term for painting a fence over white, covering up blemishes and chips and such. Ergo, if you are whitewashing a character, you are covering up their bad deeds like you would cover up a fence with paint.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it used around fandoms way before social justice came into vogue. When it was used, it was usually in reference to characters' bad deeds being glossed over so they wouldn't look as morally awful as they are.

The nice thing about English is that words can have multiple metaphorical meanings! (Granted, I've seen SJWs accuse people who use "whitewashing" in other contexts of being appropriative.)

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it also could be used for that, but since I had only ever seen the race versio, I wasn't sure. Thanks for the explanation!

[(Anonymous)]

At the expense of Sansa? If anything they softened her so people would like her more (like her refusing to kneel).

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yet they pretty much shifted all of her struggles, issues, and development with marrying him onto Tyrion. They turned something that was difficult for Sansa into being about Tyrion's pain, even her reaction to the Red Wedding was shoved aside in favor of focusing more time on Tyrion, all for the purpose of making him look good. Sansa was barely in season 3 and was written as quite flat & dumb ("can my family come to the wedding hurrdurr?") as a result.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree. The writers had an issue with a character that is traditionally really disliked in the books, despite being able to see into her head, and disliked in the show, and there you can't. Tyrion is immensely more likeable in the show, and I think the showrunners predicted (FUCKING ACCURATELY) that everyone would hate Sansa for contributing to Tyrion's humiliation when he's done nothing but be nice to her. They would not have sympathized with her a bit.

To preserve the sympathy level you're SUPPOSED to have for Sansa, they made her have kindness.