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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-25 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2731 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The entire notion of "trans headcanons" is stupid primarily because headcanons cannot supplant canon. If characters are written as cis, no amount of fairyland imagination is going to wish that away.

Instead of investing all of that effort into something fruitless and anti-canon, that people who actually love the canon and the characters as they are written aren't going to enjoy, write your own original trans characters. Surely there are enough trans people who would support a story all about trans characters.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-25 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know if a character is written as cis?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

My guess would be if they demonstrate comfort with their gender in a situation where that reaction wouldn't be forced?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
- Does the character identify as male (or female) in canon? (Are they referred to by male or female pronouns?)
- Does the reader/watcher clearly see that they have a male body (or a female body), or is it otherwise made clear that they have traits of the male (or female) anatomy? (As in a sex scene.)

Then the character is cis.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Though to be fair, if you watch a show where a character's already an adult how do you know they didn't already go through a transition. Unless there are flashbacks. Plenty of media doesn't go into a character's genitalia.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Even with medical transition, you won't get a fully formed, fully functional cis body. The bone structure will be visibly different, and GRS in the 21st century can cosmetically reconstruct genitals, but not give them the functionality of a cis person's genitals. Besides, in many cases, it's deeply implausible for a person to have had the resources to transition at a pre-adult age. (Especially in live-action TV canons, where most actors are cis, it should be evident that the characters' bodies are those of cis people; I feel like it's both unrealistic in terms of expectations and disrespectful to the actor to point to them and say "Oh, that's obviously a trans body.")

Of course, in futuristic science fiction canons, anything goes.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Transitioning is a very expensive and lengthy process, which makes it prohibitive for a lot of people even in real life. And unless the canon is a modern-day or futuristic one, the process probably doesn't even exist in the canon world.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. This is exactly why genderbending and racebending are also so stupid.

If you actually cared about issues like that, you'd be supporting trans creators and canons with canon trans characters, not just headcanoning things that have zero effect on anything at all.

Fanart and fanfics aren't canon and they don't change the canon itself. You want more representation? Then support what already exists and show the creators that there are people who want to see more.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
the funny thing is that if canons with trans characters started cropping up in abundance you'd start railing about how they were "pandering to tumblr"

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. I would love to see more canon trans characters where them being trans is a canon fact, not someone's headcanon. Headcanons and subtext do not actual representation make.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
But not everybody who racebends or genderbends is doing it for social justice reasons. Some write such scenarios as a "what if?" and go from there. Or for the even more base reasons of "oh so pretty/handsome!".

So go ahead and think it's stupid, but not everything is about "representation".

(Me? I do think it would be cool if there were more canons with trans people in it, just as an outside viewer who has no horse in the race. But if a show sucks, I'm not going to support it just because it has a trans character.)