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Comments

[grausam]

I just can't stand people who get snobbish about turning up their noses on published books.
an argument I saw was that you can't find certain genre mixes with gay/queer characters and that makes fanfiction superior. Wtf.

If you sought it out as original fiction, even if you don't buy it, maybe you could actually make these niches more economically feasible outside of fan fiction. And it's definitely There!

And while fanfics can be very diverse for kinks and certain dynamics, in my fandoms they're very restricted to certain POVs- american teenagers and college aged ppl.
Really good fanfics are often by older folks with more experience, tbf.

Not that the mainstream book world isn't restrictive as well (to 40 something white guys), but it's easier to get cross cultural literature without having to invest into certain fandoms- there's just more human experience out there, and so many people who have given recs for good stuff.
And as someone who doesn't always want to read romance there's a lot more gen/not romance focused stuff to read than in any fandom I encountered so far.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god. So true. It's like no matter the genre or the source material, you are ALWAYS reading about American teenagers.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree.

On the other hand, with published fiction, 80% of the time you're always reading about old white men, no matter the ostensible characters.

Swings and roundabouts.

[(Anonymous)]

tbqh, I can't remember the last time I read about an "old white man".

I mean, perhaps Tolstoy? But Russian culture is wildly different from American culture, and I find his portrayal of pre-revolution Russian society amazing (or are you one of those "all Caucasians are a monolith with no culture" people?). Other than that, I read about a Chinese young woman, and American professor who dealt with schizophrenia her whole life, a young ambiguously-brown boy in a fantasy world... seriously, there is SO MUCH VARIETY out there.
The "old white men" thing is a fallacy.

[grausam]

it's not always old white men, there's also white boy's coming of age stories (jk)

but you're right, there's a lot variety if you're putting some effort into it. Being able to buy books online doesn't hurt either- there are book publishers who look exclusively for interesting presentation.

[(Anonymous)]

The "old white men" thing is a fallacy.

This. The English novel was practically invented by women -- Austen, the Brontes, Eliot, Gaskell...

+1 to both

[grausam]

even if the fanfic authors aren't American teenagers, most of the "normal life AUs" get written as American (or maybe British)

yeah, it's hard to find books not about old white men for me, but at least the author's name and heritage is a clue :/ (doesn't make them automatically enjoyable, though)

Re: +1 to both

[(Anonymous)]

It bugs me, tbh. I wish I would write an AU set in my country, but I'm afraid it'll just sound political/preachy, because it doesn't fit the American 'default'.

Re: +1 to both

[grausam]

yeah... just the effort it would take to write to an "university AU in my country" (which I would like to write) instead of a "college AU" even though that's at least a broadly similiar socio economic population, would include a lot of exposition. Those would exoticize it again, although one actually wanted to write a normal, authentic POV or world?

What kind of AU in your country would you like to write, anon?

Re: +1 to both

[ketita]

lol I'll just out myself, it's not a big deal, I just hadn't signed in yet.

I'm in the SNK fandom and reincarnation AUs are a huge thing. I've had one or two plots I've considered, but I feel like my only option is to reincarnate them into an American-ish setting. I'm Israeli, and ah-ha-ha try writing a fic set in modern Israel /fatalistic shrug
A fic about soldiers in modern Israel. (don't know if you know the setting, but the main characters are all soldiers in that anime).

I hate that everything about my country is politicized so heavily by everyone, but that's reality.

Re: +1 to both

[grausam]

damn, according to the stuff I know about snk it would be really interesting
to read about an AU with normal day-to-day military service and its culture with the characters (the majority of Israelis serve sometime during their lifes, right?).

And it would show an interesting contrast between anime military against gruesome monster enemies and a complicated andor just mundane soldier reality.

but yeah, there's no way that wouldn't create wank, just because you broached "Israel" at all.

[sarillia]

I'm repeating myself, but I don't understand this stereotype at all. It comes up every time this discussion happens and I don't get it.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Easy solution. Don't read that, especially now that we're in an age when reviewers who do only feminist, queer, or multicultural literature within single genres lament that more is being published than they have time to read.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Yeah, I'm a bit tired of ship warriors who will spam my dash with dozens of posts about how Supernatural and Teen Wolf must have a same-sex relationship but won't touch original queer fiction or non-fiction.

[grausam]

eh, I can understand it for younger folks. it feels safer to stay in your own canonverse bubbles and its familiar projections and tropes with a back-up crowd of other people (although I don't know how bad those ship warriors get), than to look for the stuff where the fantasy turns fictional reality.

I don't get it for older folks though.

[waterfall8484]

You are awesome, and I love you. :~D

I read fanfic and published fiction for some different and some similar reasons.

Fanfic - I already love the characters/other aspects of the fandom and I want more, also I love crossovers. I want to see what others can do with those fandoms, and I already know there's a lot of awesome stuff to be found.

Published fiction - I want to read more of a series/author I love, I want to read new things in genres I love, I want to read something written by/about people with a different cultural/social/historical background than me, I want to read historical fiction (because I enjoy it more than nonfiction history), or I want to try something I haven't read much of before/haven't read in a while.

I also try to read some nonfiction, because I want to learn stuff.