[ SECRET POST #2734 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2734 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Piracy is not stealing. It's sharing. No unsold copies harmed. Damn, this discussion is so old.

[(Anonymous)]

lol you're deluding yourself if you don't think piracy has a serious impact on the anime and manga industry outside japan

[(Anonymous)]

you either give people all over the world get immediate access to your product for a reasonable price, or it will be pirated.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, look at what Crunchyroll does and look at how prevalent anime piracy still is.

[(Anonymous)]

Da

I could understand if Crunchyroll isn't available in your country, but you don't have much of a leg to stand on if it is. Unless it is something that has isn't on there and not licensed. Or something like the Gundam franchise, which doesn't seem to have a chance in hell of ever being licensed in the US again.

So what if you have to wait a week to watch the new episode of a currently airing anime series if you're only a free user. Check out another anime in the meantime.

[(Anonymous)]

weren't we talking about manga?

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, my bad. The secret mentioned both anime and manga, so I went with anime. I don't know how good Crunchyroll is when it comes to manga.

[(Anonymous)]

Crunchroll's working on it and has a few that they simulcast (?) and a few other companies do too, but manga's a much larger industry in Japan than anime that for even a combination of companies to translate most of the currently running manga wouldn't be feasible.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Yeah, I totally get that if you have no access in your country or if it isn't currently licensed, but it seems like for the most part it's people who just won't fork over the seven bucks a month or wait a week.

Anime's kind of tricky because for the longest time piracy and fansubs used to be the ONLY way you could watch stuff and that kind of culture continued even though the anime scene changed.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

Exactly. Most of the excuses I've seen tend to be that they can't possibly wait a week to catch the newest episode. Which I can kind of understand being frustrated about, but damn. Busy yourself with something else while you wait.

Yeah. But Crunchyroll has been legal for how long? They've had plenty of time to adjust.

[toshi_hakari]

I once tried the free Crunchyroll trial and had to realize that all of the anime I wanted to watch weren't available for my region/country. I was more than ready to pay for streamed anime, but if Crunchyroll is going to cockblock me by not letting me watch what I want to watch, it's quite shitty.

That being said, I just went back to either ordering the occasional DVD from Japan or I wait for the licensed anime to be released here.

[(Anonymous)]

from google's dictionary:

piracy - the practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea; a practice similar to piracy but in other contexts, especially hijacking; the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work.

theft - the action or crime of stealing.

stealing - take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it; move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.


from dictionary.law.com:

theft - n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale).


Where, exactly, in those definitions is the word "sharing"? "stealing" and "taking of another's property without permission" show up pretty often. And IP property, whether physical or not, IS property. Or should I look that up for you too?

[(Anonymous)]

Piracy: non-consensual sharing!

[(Anonymous)]

Once again, that's stealing. Unless you'd enjoy non-consensually sharing the contents of your bank account with strangers on the internet?

[(Anonymous)]

I'd non-consensually share my bank account with you, anytime. ;3

Sorry, not sorry

[(Anonymous)]

So no, you don't want to non-consensually share... yet you seem to think other people should be okay with it?

[(Anonymous)]

It was a bad innuendo joke; don't take it seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

Please make an example that works like IP, or you just look like "you wouldn't download a car". The whole reason "stealing" doesn't resonate with people in regards to this is because nothing is actually getting taken away except an imaginary potential sale that the "thief" knows wasn't gonna happen.

- Anon Who Doesn't Pirate But Is Bloody Sick Of The Way The Argument Runs On Both Sides

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I was agreeing that piracy is stealing and trying to be funny about it.

[(Anonymous)]

You seem to be missing an important part of the definition of "stealing," which is the word "take." You cannot take something without removing it from where it was, which is why piracy is it's own term and there are so many videos that try to equate piracy with stealing. Definition-wise, they are not the same thing.