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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-30 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2736 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2736 ⌋

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intrigueing: (piper and trickster have no taste)

Re: Loki/Tony

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-07-01 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I get it, but I don't get the *way* it's shipped.

I totally get hateshipping/competitiveness/two-snarky-dudes-having-it-out/Tony pushing Loki's buttons/Loki being fascinated by the fact that he couldn't freeze Tony/Loki wanting to humiliate that smug human who asked him if he had 'performance issues.' I totally, TOTALLY get all that.

But what most of the fandom seems to say is "Tony's dad was mean to him too! Therefore he will sympathize the most with Loki wanting to commit genocide to prove how badass he is!!!!" And that, I don't get. Actually, I'd expect that none of the Avengers hates Loki more than Tony except Clint. Because Loki is everything Tony violently rejected in Afghanistan. Loki is basically a non-dweeby version of Justin Hammer.

Re: Loki/Tony

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I also think that, in this particular case, all the parallels actually make it harder for sympathy to happen. If these characters could somehow see all the similarities between them, it wouldn't make them like or respect each other more -- those similarities are vehicles that feed their latent self-loathing, which will just intensify the antagonism.
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Re: Loki/Tony

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-07-01 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly. Loki is everything Tony hates about himself and his past, and Tony is everything Loki epically failed to achieve because he didn't have the balls to try.
Edited 2014-07-01 00:37 (UTC)

Re: Loki/Tony

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this. Also, both characters deal with their latent self-loathing and issues in ways that I can't see the other respecting, which would fuel their mutual antagonism even more.