[ SECRET POST #2739 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2739 ⌋

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Comments

[cushlamochree]

The first reboot movie isn't miles away from the way Trek is presented in films. It's miles away from the TV series, yes, but so are many of the films in a lot of ways. The thing with the first reboot movie is that it doesn't really have much to say good or bad thematically. It's a fun action movie. Which is the genre in which several of the Trek movies have also fallen.

The second, now... yeah, the second is just fucking awful. They took the worst parts of Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country and combined them in a way that gets rid of everything that was interesting in both, and everything that was close to Star Trek in both.

[abharding]

After I saw the second movie, a friend of mine asked me what I thought of it...and I said it was a bad mix of II and XI. I wouldn't say it took the worst parts of those two movies as both were pretty good films, but they just didn't work here because there wasn't the back story to support them. In the original films we knew why Khan hated Kirk, we knew why Kirk hated the Klingons - In Into Darkness there was none of that.

[cushlamochree]

Exactly.

In the end Into Darkness actually kind of relies on people already knowing about the Klingons and Khan. They never take the time to set it up in the movie, so the main reason that you care about Khan is because you know what happened in Wrath of Khan originally. Which is a really fan-wanky thing to do when you're trying to reboot a series from scratch.

[intrigueing]

Yeah IA that the first movie was okay -- it was more about presenting the characters than anything, so there were some very disappointing/annoying parts but if I thought "okay, this is just the intro, they can't delve into everything yet" it was sort of fun. But it all went to crap in the second movie and for me at least, that retroactively destroyed the first movie too *shrugs*

Reboot Pike is still epic though.

Bruce Greenwood is SO WONDERFUL

[(Anonymous)]

I love reboot Pike. So of course they had to kill him.

Watched Thirteen Days just for more Bruce -- was not disappointed as it's a great movie.

[cushlamochree]

I liked the characters so much in the first movie! I thought more or less all of them were well done, and especially Scotty, Kirk, and Bones. They did great work to set them up with it.

And then in the second movie they went precisely nowhere with it.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm kind of the opposite -- I hated Kirk and Spock in the first film and was ambivalent to everyone else. I liked them in STID, though. I feel like I'm the only one with that opinion, but there it is.