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Did someone else take her place though? I though she was reassigned but does that necessarily mean someone else was moved or could she have just been added to the Enterprise and the Farragut be short one person?

Well according to the movie they are basically training up entire crews at once, so if they are an Lt. short on one ship then that has to be filled from somewhere and if they are putting one extra on the Enterprise than that extra has to fill a space somewhere else. I think it is pretty certain that when Spock moved her across to the Enterprise, he'd have to have had someone else step into the Farragut to make the ship's complement.

I guess that's possible. I just think that it would have been rather difficult to ensure that the other person would have been told in time to get to the Farragut. He might have just moved Uhura and shortchanged the Farragut.

They are all checking their assignments and transport allotments off of futuristic ipads, so I don't see how (unless Star Trek doesn't use wireless). Someone probably just turned up to their transport to the Enterprise and got told, they'd just been bumped and go see travel pod pilot for the Farragut.

I just think it's likely that, once assignments were made, people would have been incredibly busy prepping their stations. There's no guarantee that they would have checked their postings or their futuristic iPads once they were on the job. Especially since it was a matter of some urgency. Also, I don't know whether Spock would have been willing to move someone from the Enterprise to the Farragut given that the Enterprise is the more prestigious ship. The person reassigned might have tried to go looking for him to ask about the reassignment and he would have had to explain (which I doubt he wanted to do).

I can well imagine him not wanting to say that he gave away their berth to his girlfriend, but they are checking people on and off the shuttles. That means the allocations have to match up, McCoy's stunt notwithstanding, I can't see how Spock could get away with packing in one more body without taking someone else off to make room for them. Especially on the flagship.

I feel like this could cause more problems than it solved, though. Just moving Uhura means he's going to have to answer for her placement. But moving two people (one of whom is undoubtedly going to be pissed and is going to challenge the change) is going to make things more complicated. I feel like Spock would rather deal with trying to explain why an extra person is onboard the Enterprise rather than why a switch was made.

I suppose it all boils down to how their database is constructed. Does it flag non-matching allocations? If it does then switching around is the only way to square it, if it doesn't then its open.

I'd like to think that he still had to switch someone, if only because the implications could lead to some nice character stuff when confronted with them. Its all a bit blithe to let Uhura get on the Enterprise with no negative consequences, to have someone say "because you wanted a better assignment my [insert name] is dead, it should have been you!" and have her deal with that would really be a nice bit of character growth. It would also show that all those bits of starship kibble in orbit of Vulcan were more than just fancy special effects shots. You know, that there was a weight to it all beyond just the main cast.

That's a good point. I think it could lead to some good character growth. Though I do hope they would emphasize that the situation was Spock's fault to begin with. But it would be nice for Uhura to have a plot line of her own to develop so I see your point there.

Oh I think it is both their faults. They really both ought to have known better. How anyone could be dumb enough not to think that dating your evaluator would not cause ructions when it came to handing out placements is beyond me.

Of course someone took her place. You can't just have an OFFICER vanish from their assigned posting. Someone was moved, or bumped, or whatever to make a place for her and to fill the spot on the Farragut. And that was a big to-do they basically handwaved because in the real world, ships and particularly military ships are very careful about crew and everybody is assigned a job, a berth, etc., and you make sure everyone and everything is where they're supposed to be before you head out.

So yes - they had to scramble to replace her on the Farragut and that meant either a person who wasn't quite up to snuff got bumped up the ladder real sudden or someone on the Enterprise got taken off and was probably pissed as hell.

You can bet the Farragut's XO was pissed when s/he had to redo all the crew duty shifts, and who ever was in charge of arranging crew quarters would be pissed when they had to draw up a new bunk/cabin arrangement. The Farragut would have been given her file to arrange all that stuff before even Uhura was told where she was going, you can't just chop and change like that. Spock got lucky that the rest of the fleet was blown up, because there is no way the Farragut's CO would not have been filing a complaint on such an unprofessional act. I really don't think "my girlfriend wanted a better posting because she disagreed with my initial assessment in the middle of an emergency deployment" would have cut the mustard as an excuse either.

That is the other bit that gets me. They were in the middle of an emergency deployment. That is so not the right time to be arguing over placements. I get that, perhaps without the scramble, hen Uhura was officially given her assignment that she might have disagreed and lobbied Spock, or even Pike, for a better one. She would have had time to do it, and she could even have spoken to her CO on the Farragut too (although good luck as I see the phrase "So, you think you are too good for my boat do you?" looming large in that conversation). There might even have been (in fact I'd be surprised if there wasn't) an actual appeals process to follow. However, in the middle of an emergency scramble is not the time to do it. It was damn unprofessional of her to even try. Yeah, it worked out for the best because of writer's fiat, but still. Jeez that scene was a mess.

It really was and it just pissed me off *so bad*. Uhura is not a that unprofessional, that petty, that....anything. It was a huge disservice to her character and all because of writer!fail and the need to shoehorn in a romance.

BAH.

You completely made this up. If it makes you happy to do so, then great, but let's not run around pretending your fanfiction is canon information.

Uh, wth are *you* babbling about? One - i'm not in this fandom. Two - i don't write TOS/reboot fic of *any* kind. Three - no, sorry, I didn't. If we're going to pretend that the ST universe is even *remotely* like ours, with lines of command and whatnot, than this is the *logical conclusion* of that kind of action.

Sorry if that makes you all butthurt, but you don't just switch out officers on a freaking FLAGSHIP about to go into action without any kind of repercussions or commotion. That we don't get a hint of that in the actual movie just points up the vast faults in the plot and the fact that the writers and director didn't think things through.

Your crazy rant doesn't make anything you've written true. You're trying to apply your own rules to someone else's fictional universe = fanfiction. Though I could call it your personal headcanon if that will make you feel better.

Uh huh. And are you having this same 'issue' with the other people who agree with me, or are you just whining at me? Get a life, please.

Oh, look - checking up and down the thread shows me you're not whining to anyone else but me. Wow.

I'm anonymous... How can you tell?

While this is posted under your thread and the second post was in response to you, the sentiment is the same for all of them. Don't feel bad. I wasn't trying to attack you.

I feel neither bad nor attacked, just boggled that only *my* comments are being singled out as if what i'm saying is some kind of horrifying affront. It's an opinion, based upon how organized, militarized groups *work*. Jayzus.

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