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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-06 04:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2742 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2742 ⌋

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Re: "In multicultural cities Japanese/Koreans are gaining 'white privilege'"

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-07 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the first to admit I forget that tone doesn't carry across the Internet so well, so I don't feel bad about saying I have no idea where you're going with this/what you're trying to say, here. *could use some clarification*

Re: "In multicultural cities Japanese/Koreans are gaining 'white privilege'"

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Whilst the model minority is a real concept and problem, it is frequently used by groups to deny the very real privilege that they do have.
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Re: "In multicultural cities Japanese/Koreans are gaining 'white privilege'"

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-07 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Racial privilege =/= white privilege, is the point I was trying to make.

I mean, not all races and POCs face the same problems. i.e. Black people face a lot of discrimination, but immigration is rarely a problem for them in general, but it is a huge problem for Latinos.

Maybe it's just me, but the idea that different races can have different privileges or advantages while still ultimately being at a disadvantage in comparison to the dominant race is obvious. Trying to imply that Asian-Americans are often better off than most other POCs is the same as them having white privilege, is needlessly provocative.

I mean, on any given spectrum or issue, some people fare better than others, but that does not mean that people "in the middle" or experiencing less oppression/discrimination face no oppression or discrimination. Yet claiming Asian-Americans have white privilege does exactly that.

da

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone (except maybe a few idiots) is saying they have white privilege... yet. Even the subject title here says the claim is that they're gaining it. I think the claims are that this has happened before with other ethnic groups that were once considered "separate" and are now plainly "white," and the same pattern is emerging in the changing treatment of certain Asian groups.
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Re: da

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-07 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. That makes more sense. I guess I'm personally still unsure about the likelihood of that. A big part of that is just that racism is so strongly based on outward appearance, and I can't help but feel that it was easy to incorporate other "non-white" races into the category of "white" was because, well, they already were white (as in, of European descent). While definitely Asian-Americans are gaining privilege in comparison to other POC's, it's still...not comparable to the assimilation of various European ethnic minorities into the white majority.

Then again, I also recently dealt with someone who insisted Irish-Americans were still a minority facing discrimination in America, and I just...I don't even know what to do with that.

Re: "In multicultural cities Japanese/Koreans are gaining 'white privilege'"

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but they're saying that, in their eyes, Asian-Americans do enjoy all the benefits of privilege, and so arguments about being the 'model minority' are specious, and only used as an excuse for one's own failings.

Maybe it's part of some elaborate practical joke but tbh my reading is that they're just being real shitty and aggro.

Source: I have spent too much time on 4chan.