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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-07 06:41 pm

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Give it a shot. If you fail, then so what? You'll be no worse off than you are now. Seriously. Make your reviews. Post a link here, on FB, wherever. Ask for honest feedback. See what happens.

You don't have to be afraid of failing.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2014-07-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I guarantee everybody who has ever started a creative endeavor has had these feelings. It's a natural part of the process -- I hope you are able to overcome it and find a way to make it work for you. Good luck!
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
We have enough internet reviewers doing videos, articles, whatever.


So what's one more? Film reviews and criticism are a hell of a lot of fun, more people should analyze why they like something and see if they can differentiate between 'i like it, but it's bad' and the compliment.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a big part of why I'm nervous; there's just so many reviewers out there that I might get missed.

I want to focus on special effects in movies, pointing out especially good ones, explaining how I think they were done, things like that, while also explaining and commenting on the plot.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's a very particular niche (I don't frequent reviews so I could be wrong), and I think there might be people who appreciate what you'll do.

Go for it. At worst, you failed your expectations, you can remove your videos. At best...who knows? It's scary to try something, but it's worse always wondering what if...personally.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I remember kid's shows that focused on similar stuff. This was back when special effects were physical stuff like prosthetics and such, not just cgi and it makes me think that I haven't seen a show or a review like that in a while.

If you have the knowledge, it could be a niche show. It's much more art-minded than most other reviews, and I think that could give you an edge; you could target yourself at aspiring digital artists, or something like that. Make a solid plan for a few episodes and how you're going to put yourself out there (a lot of reviewers started with mediocre equipment, so that may not be as much of a problem as you think), and then give it a shot! Even if it takes a while to work out, or it doesn't and you feel you need to drop it or take a break, you can always come back to it when you feel you're wiser! There's no limit to the amount of times you can try.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
OP I know film journalists who make a good living out of this stuff. I think if you start then you are building up a portfolio and can go and study journalism or film studies and it would help towards a career.

You might as well go for it if you want to pursue it.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it because you love it! Don't set up success or failure thoughts. Think about how much pleasure you will get from it, how accomplished you'll feel, and how proud of yourself. You'll be heard, even if it's only be a few people. The haters don't matter. It doesn't help to compare yourself to successful people. It helps to do your best! That's what makes a person happy - do your best, be your best, and do things you love!
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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-07-07 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if you don't 'hit it big', if this is something you want to do that would make you happy, it's worth trying. Your equipment doesn't have to be fancy (I don't typically listen to movie reviews, but when I do watch something on youtube the sound quality isn't something that turns me off unless it's unintelligible), and you can always upgrade later if it means that much to you. I get why you would be nervous and unsure, but you never know until you try!

Re: +1

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Be honest with yourself, OP. Is it just fear that's holding you back, or are you mainly put off because of the hard work, time and money commitment it takes to do a good job?

I have the feeling that the OP isn't being entirely honest with themselves, and would prefer it to blame their inaction on a blanket cover-all "I'm scared!" or blaming their lack of equipment, rather than make an attempt to find/borrow some.

Having said that, I hope you manage to find a way to overcome your problems, and succeed in your dreams.

Have you considered joining a club to borrow the cameras etc?
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[personal profile] ziltoidianrapture 2014-07-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, OP. You should give it a shot. Who cares if you don't have a fancy mic - I'd rather watch a good, thoughtful and funny review with slightly worse audio than a review that doesn't have much going for it besides the technical stuff. You sound like you're really passionate about it, so it'd be a shame if you felt like you had to quit even before you started just because you don't have a fancy camera lying around.

Oh, and while we're at it; just because someone has professional equipment, doesn't mean they can actually use said equipment like pros. For example, some reviewers don't seem to know how to keep their audio levels from peaking (either because they keep their mic way too close and/or they don't bother fixing that stuff while editing). Hell, even some of Doug's reviews look waaaaay overexposed. Having expensive equipment is nice, but it's not going to do you any good if you can't use it properly.
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[personal profile] allkindsoffur 2014-07-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it! If you care so much about this, you really should, otherwise you'll always regret it later...
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-07-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If you never try, you fail by default.

I've done reviews before (but in print) - the backlash was surprisingly little.

Nowadays, a relatively cheap camera can already get you started, and you can upgrade if you actually make money with it.

There's easy-to-use editing software out there, some of it free, some *cough* hackable *cough*. There's also free trials to see if you like it. Stuff like Adobe is pretty great (though pricey in full official version). If you're really interested in equipment, I can ask around for you for price/stats for good quality/price deals.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-07-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been reviewing for fun on and off for ten years. I started out posting on IMDb, then I had a blog, then I reviewed for a site that specialized in cult and B-movie news. I used to entertain the thought of being a part of TGWTG or equivalent, but, honestly, it'll never happen.

It could or couldn't happen for you. But, you'll never know until you try. You'll have to just start putting your work out there. People likely won't care at first, if at all. You'll have to remind yourself you are reviewing for fun, because you love movies and because you love talking about them. The more you review, the better you'll get, and the more likely people will pay attention to you.

It's not going to be a "job" in terms of making money for a long time, if ever. It'll be a hobby. It's a fun hobby, for sure. I consider "B-movies" to be my main fandom, as varied and vast as it is.

Posting your first work for something you legitimately care about is daunting, I know. It's a raw, open feeling, but the chafe fosters a healthy growth born of practice and new experience.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of the TGWTG people started small, on youtube, with much lower quality. You might not be an instant success, but there is no shame in that. Any job will have a learning curve, and that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. I say go for it if you really enjoy it anon.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-07-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Above all else on the internet, content is king. You don't need the best camera, the best mic or the best software to make it. What you do need is the best idea. That's why a webcomic like xkcd can become popular despite all the drawings being simple stick figures. People liked the content.

If you have a great idea and think your voice is unique, go for it. You won't be an over night success but you will garner a fan base. And if you really are good, it will only grow.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Totally understand your anxiety, OP, but I'm rooting for you! Take a deep breath and just jump.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Gotta be honest, anon, if you look at the early vids of most of TGWTG reviewers, they were also cheap, amateur efforts. The polish comes with time and experience, and some of them still produce entertaining videos that look like they were cobbled together with a cheap camera and a bit of string.

Do it. Do yours. The worst that happens is that no one watches, but you might find, if you're just entertaining enough, that you'll get a little core of steady viewers, and from tiny acorns, mighty oaks do grow, yes?
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[personal profile] caecilia 2014-07-08 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
YOU CAN DO IT.

Look the TGWTG people didn't have shit when they started out but they kept going, you should keep going because practice will make you get better??? and if you don't do it now, I guarantee 5 years down the road you will be like "WHY DIDN'T I DO THAT?" I know because this is exactly how I am with writing.

okay true - you won't get a million people liking you immediately, it takes a LOT OF HARD WORK TO GET TO THAT POINT!

true - some people will give you hate. YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY'RE VERY SAD. TBH. JUST TRY TO FEEL SORRY FOR THEM INSTEAD OF FOR YOURSELF.
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[personal profile] dimestoresaint 2014-07-08 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
FWIW, I started a film blog back in college when I was just starting to learn about film (so my reviews were total amateur hour) and found the film blogging community to be really encouraging and helpful.
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[personal profile] eralkfang 2014-07-08 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Friend, just do it. If it makes you happy, that's reason enough to do it. Don't worry about viewcounts and all of that. Just enjoy analyzing!

As for equipment: I agree with the above commentators that you don't need fancy equipment. But I'll also point that Every Frame a Painting, a wonderful video essay series, is composed entirely of video from the source and Zhou's narration. That might be a good way to get started.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
But that's the thing, OP! You're just getting started. A lot of the people who are popular right now started with pretty basic equipment. Just check early videos of some of the TGWTG crew. The audio in those vids is awful! Don't let that discourage you!

Get started now and maybe in a while you can apply to TGWTG if you still want to. Or perhaps by then you'll have your own successfull thing and don't need their boost.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I have started four creative businesses and failed at all four. I'm still alive!

Failure is actually not all that bad. You can still be happy.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-15 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this is late, but as someone who was in a similar position I'd say just go for it. You've spent all this time worrying about all that stuff, but when you do it you'll find out that none of it matters. Why? Because you'll realize you're a small fish in a big pool. You'll just be happy if someone even watches your content! It'll give you a lot of perspective.

I would also warn against doing it for the "wrong" reasons. Don't do it because you think you'll become famous or make a living out of posting Youtube videos. Do it because you enjoy doing it. The chances of it becoming a full-time job is slim. But that shouldn't discourage you because you'll gain a lot of experience from it. You can then use that experience if you were to pursue a career elsewhere, like for a magazine or something.

Think of it like auditioning for a local play. You'll never get the part if you don't do it. And if you do get it, don't play the role because you think you'll get discovered by a big producer or that the little play is going to take off and become a big success. No, do it because you enjoy it. And then use your time there to help pursue bigger roles elsewhere.

Good luck!