case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-07 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2743 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2743 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.


__________________________________________________



14.


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16.


__________________________________________________



17.












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 077 secrets from Secret Submission Post #392.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
fauxkaren: (Default)

[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-07-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the opposite. I prefer canon ships (there are very few things I ship that aren't canon), though I definitely don't ship all canon ships and lmao some canon ships are NOTPs of mine.

Idk. I think it's because I'm more interested in intrapolation rather than extrapolation. Like, I'm a lot more interested in analyzing the characters' canon traits and interactions than I am in imagining alternate canons, if that makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the same way. Though it's weird because there have been ships I liked before they were canon, and they ended up being... canon. So maybe I also just manage to pick up on where the creators are going and like the pairings accordingly?

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-07-08 01:33 (UTC) - Expand
intrigueing: (ten's sentient hair)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-07-08 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm more interested in intrapolation rather than extrapolation. Like, I'm a lot more interested in analyzing the characters' canon traits and interactions than I am in imagining alternate canons

OMG yes THIS is why prefer canon! *headdesk* I've had this opinion for a long time but I could never figure out why I felt this way until you described it in this comment. Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm totally pathological about canon ships. I may not actively ship them, but I have huge negative reactions to shipping them any other way. It's canon, dammit!
sdk: A great white shark about to breach with a rainbow filter and text that reads sdk (Default)

[personal profile] sdk 2014-07-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed x1000. I so could have made this secret.

Yeah, I always feel like that's being handled (even if it's done badly).

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to see other relationships, something about all the possibilities. And yeah, like you said, AUs just don't feel the same.
philstar22: (Spike/Dru)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-07-07 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It really depends on the fandom for me. I don't go into things liking anything just because it is/isn't canon. There are certain commonalities to ships I like and certain things that grab me. But I don't tend to change my mind on shipping. Once I'm hooked on a pairing, I stay loyal (with a few exceptions like the horror that House/Cuddy turned out to be). Some ships I like are canon others are fanon.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
In big fandoms I often ship a canon character with a non-canon character or someone we know almost nothing about. That gives me both possibilities - to stay true to the canon if I like it or drift away from it how much I want. Worked great for me in Star Trek, Harry Potter and Queer as Folk (US) fandom so far.
silvereriena: Icon by dolcesecret (Default)

[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-07-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I have ships in both camps, but I think the majority of them are non-canon. There is an element of fun in exploring all of the what-ifs.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-07-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer canon ships, in theory, but in fanfic I only like them if people do something interesting with them. Non-canon ships, when I like them, seem to have a bit more potential story-wise.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend to ship ships purely because they fill me with a mad flailing passion. I don't really fall for them for their story potential, so much as for how much the thought of them fills me with glee/joy/pained amazement. So I do ship a fair few canon ships, and probably more than a few non-canon ones, depending on what characters spark that giddy feeling inside me when they're put together. When they happen to be canon, usually I'm flailing happily at those relationship milestones, so feeling restrained by them isn't an issue. And with a fair few of my canon ships, those milestones are more hinted at than revealed, so there's that.

Some of said canon ships, for reference:

Ivan/Victoria (RED), Gomez/Morticia (Addams Family), Rick/Evey (The Mummy), Sam/Sybil (Discworld), Tony/Pepper (MCU), Londo/Timov (Babylon 5), Snow/Charming (OUAT), Eowyn/Faramir (LotR), Gen/Irene (Queen's Thief), Aral/Cordelia (Vorkosigan), Eloise/Javier (Honor Harrington), Ancelyn/Winifred (Classic Who).

I definitely have a type when it comes to ships, I'm aware of this. Or several variations on a type. I will say, with a lot of these ships I'll cheerfully add a third or fourth character in while writing fics, to examine the new dynamic with another element involved. The ones I write more pure pairing fic for are usually the ones with more hinted backstories and/or the ones who get into stupid crazy messes all the time in which to have new moments in. Which might be why a lot of them are battle couples or Addamses. Heh. Some of them just have the dynamics to carry it on their own, though.

Character Interaction is this for me

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I find I ship things not based on canonicity, but how much the characters interact.

Like, I could never get into Zutara not because I didn't like the characters, but because Zuko and Katara had so little positive interaction (no offense to anyone who ships it).

I loved Kataang, though, because they had so many adorable moments. Even if they aren't romantic most of the time.

Or in Harry Potter, I always loved Ron and Hermione, but even though I liked Ginny, I could never really ship Harry with her because it seemed like they barely interacted (given the length of the books).

On the other hand, there's things like the Star Trek reboots where I ship Kirk and Spock because they have by far the most interaction and emotionally intimate conversations. I could never really get into the canon pairing in those films (although I think it's quite cute and both characters are great).

With the Legend of Zelda this holds true as well -- I just can't ship Link and Zelda when they barely interact. In Ocarina of Time and Skyward Sword I shipped them (since I include Sheik) but in Twilight Princess, I definitely ship Midna with Link instead although I do like Zelda.
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Steve WS)

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-07-08 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I've got a mix of both and it pretty much depends on character dynamics as to whether I'll be shipping a canon pair or a non-canon pair.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I think most people are like you?

I prefer canon because I prefer to play in other people's playgrounds. Not uproot a slide to build a swingset.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
But you don't have to uproot the slide? You could just build a new playground up the road that adjusts the old playground to your liking.

(For the record, I just really love the addendum to the 'playground' metaphor that is so popular in fandom.)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with your first part. Heck, the couple of canon pairings I ship, I ship because there is so little romantic interaction in canon, even though they are an official couple. (I'm looking at you Howl/Sophie)

I like the extra challenge, especially of odd pairings. Yes, you still have canon, but it's up to YOU to build the relationship, and that's fun for me. :)
ext_18500: My non-fandom OC Oraania. She's crazy. (Default)

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-07-08 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
This secret sound like I wrote it. You even have one of my big reasons why I favour non-canon - it doesn't feel as set-in-stone as canon pairs.

I will say however that even non-canon pairings can gain a set-in-stone feel, but I think it comes hand-in-hand with being a juggernaut pairing.

Of course the other reason I ship non-canon more often than not is slash.
caecilia: (sexual tension)

[personal profile] caecilia 2014-07-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like I need to be canon compliant even with non-canon ships. Like, idk, I just have to make it work within set paramaters? Example - I can't see Julian Bashir and Elim Garak as TOTES MARRIED FOREVER, I think they had a really intense relationship and then broke up, around the time Ziyal came aboard, and there's a possibility they could be married some eventually, but Julian and Ezri have to break up first. And that's not even takeing into consideration the Miles Factor.

Wow I'm sorry this has nothing to do with your fandom, it's just been on my mind a lot lately.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: I care about sticking to canon. But I might have a loooser definition of what that is than some other people.
gunchuks: (the problem is it needs more lasers.)

[personal profile] gunchuks 2014-07-08 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I find a lot of canon ships way too boring and formulaic. Especially main male protag gets main female protag because she's there and female and not because their personalities jive well together or because the characters learn something from each other. I'd rather read and write about non-canon ships most of the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever shipped a main canon ship before because I, too, have always found them to be boring and formulaic. Non-canon ships, I've always found, seem to have more potential than official canon allows.
truxillogical: (Default)

[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-07-08 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, you've got a point.

I'm kinda hopelessly addicted to "get-together" fics. I love all the different ways, say, Clint and Coulson get together in the minds of fans. I kind of even love that a good number of those ways line up, that fans create these little sub-sub genres. I like it being different (but kinda the same) each time. I like getting to see new or different takes on a single concept.

I like it being multiple choice.

OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-07-08 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! I love get-together fics too and your "multiple choice" analogy is perfect! But when the ship is canon then you already know how they got together and even though you could just write an AU fic where they get together a different way, you know that the audience always has the canon version of events in the back of their mind.

(no subject)

[personal profile] dancing_serpent - 2014-07-08 07:38 (UTC) - Expand
duaedesigns: Photo of crochet Loki doll (Default)

[personal profile] duaedesigns 2014-07-08 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I am utterly uninterested in canon ships. Even if I think they're cute in canon I just have no urge to find fanwork of them, at all.

I mean I think it's great others do, but it's like.... eh, nope.

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-07-08 08:17 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2014-07-08 08:52 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] duaedesigns - 2014-07-08 19:23 (UTC) - Expand
dancing_serpent: (Default)

[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2014-07-08 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same here. To the point where I sometimes lose interest in a pairing when it becomes canon.