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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-12 03:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2748 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2748 ⌋

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Notes:

Early because ... World Cup! No other excuse.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well, this just points out a big fallacy in the whole X-men mutant rights thesis - some mutants are dangerous. Some mutants can't even control their powers properly. And many, if they hcose to, could use their powers to do whatever they, break any laws they want, with no consequences - see DOFP and breaking Magneto out of his super high security prison with the help of a teenager.

I personally don't think there's any problem for a society that has mutants to want to have some way of fighting mutants, purely for law enforcement purposes i.e. so if a mutant goes rogue they are able to be apprehended by police and held in jail etc.

But it's too hard to make that argument and seems too much of a grey area (even though it really isn't). So it's all 'anybody complaining about mutants is a fascist' and heavy-handed metaphors about minority rights. Which I like, up to a point, being the big leftie I am. But there is also a point where you have to concede that there is no problem with listing someone who is powerful enough to commit mass murders or destroy entire cities or control minds and bodies with a single thought or touch as a potential problem and preparing accordingly.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, marvel tried to address that with Civil War (except replace "mutants" with "all super-powered people") and they failed hard. The pro-registration side were made to be complete and total assholes while the anti-registration side seems much more sympathetic which is weird because Marvel's official stance was that the pro-reg side was the correct one (there were multiple writers for the arc though and you can definitely tell that not all of them agreed with this). I literally had no idea we were supposed to sympathize more with the pro-reg side until the end of the arc where Captain America (who was anti-reg) admitted that he was wrong.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2014-07-13 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
It certainly wasn't helped by the fact that Cap was anti-reg, or all the ridiculous bullshit the pro-reg side did (clone Thor, for one thing, although there was plenty else, like that prison), or the fact that Peter Parker defected from pro-reg to anti-reg partway through. Civil War was a goddamn mess.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

The Thor clone thing still pisses me off so much. How could they think that would be a good idea? Were they like "Awesome, let's go ahead and turn loose this possibly unstable Thor clone into a super hero battle BECAUSE HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY GO WRONG?". Not to mention that anyone with a brain would be aware that actual!Thor would be pissed that his likeness was used to battle his friends (and straight up kill one of them). And boy was Thor ever angry when he did find out...

And the Cap thing still doesn't make any sense either. Why would you have Cap be the poster boy of a movement that you want the reader to disagree with? He's Captain America!

Apparently I'm still really mad about Civil War, sorry
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-07-13 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Thor was dead at the time and they actually had reason to believe he wasn't coming back for once.