[ SECRET POST #2749 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2749 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 073 secrets from Secret Submission Post #393.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're missing the fact that published fic is (by and large) original fic. Fanfiction is based on something that presumably author and reader share and know- the same canon (or fanon). For me fb isn't about owing, it's about interacting and sharing. And the presumption that fanfic writers have an obligation to post stuff for zero return is pretty weird to me. I always comment if I like a fic. Always. I couldn't imagine not letting an author know I like their fic and appreciate them being willing to share it. I'm one of those (I'm sure not the one you're talking about) who deleted my fics at AO3. They have a happy home elsewhere now, I don't worry about comments/kudos/hits ratios and my stress over the lack of interaction is gone. I had a few people contact me all indignant, but as they were people who never commented, I have to be honest and say that I had zero sympathy for them.

[(Anonymous)]

For others who stress about comments/hits/kudos ratios on AO3, it is possible to disable kudos/comments emails from the preferences page on your account. It is also possible to make it so you don't see the stats on ANY works on AO3, either your own or someone else's. Basically, this is done by inputting CSS into a skin.

To make all stats invisible: http://astolat.tumblr.com/post/91281173598

To show only wordcount and chapter count: http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/94478.html?thread=461367822#cmt461367822

This has been a lifesaver for me, because although I like kudos and all, like a lot of people I have a tendency to obsess and stress out over stats. I haven't done that in a few days, now, and it's great.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for those links! I swear the settings on the preferences page don't even work for me (at least not on all pages. so frustrating).

[dancing_serpent]

Yeah, same here. I have ticked the "don't show me any hit counts" box ticked, but I get them shown to me pertty much everywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

But some people aren't reading fic to interact. They just want to passively enjoy something without the same knot of social obligation and expectation as RL. For all the people who do review there will be some who don't for one reason or the other, and that's ok. You say feedback isn't about owing, but you are strongly implying you feel authors are owed the interaction and sharing of feedback.

It's good that you review, but the problem with what you're saying is that you're pushing your own way of doing fandom onto other people. Just because you like and want to review on every fic you read doesn't mean someone else does or has to. Just because someone reviews doesn't make them a better fan or more worthy of reading the fic.

And to be honest that's kind of an awful attitude to have: to flounce and completely snub people just because they didn't review and feel completely justified. Maybe they didn't give you the review you feel they owed you, but they might have spread the word about your fic to other people, either by reccing it or having it in their favorites so where more people could find it, who read it and possibly reviewed it.

[crunchysunrises]

I was more or less with you right up until the end... when you started pushing YOUR way of doing fandom on the previous anon.

It's fine that you don't want to leave reviews. And it's fine that the other anon does. But neither the previous anon nor any other writer owe you or any other non-reviewing reader any consideration of your feelings when the writers get frustrated and pull their fics since, as you yourself have declared, you don't believe that there's any "knot of social obligation" or "expectation" between fic writers and readers.

Leaving reviews may not make you, in your words, "a better fan or more worthy of reading the fic" but it certainly makes the author more aware of you and your preferences. I can honestly say that I give far more consideration to people who leave comments than people that I don't even know exist... and no, hypothetical reccing or favoriting don't enter into the equation because they could just as easily not being doing those things.

[crunchysunrises]

Wait, wait, wait... I want to hear more about your fic exodus if you don't mind. Is the new site better than AO3 (by your reckoning, of course)? Less stressful to you? Can I ask why you left? I have so many questions!