[ SECRET POST #2749 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2749 ⌋

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Comments

[scrubber]

Yeah, beautiful shows have been made on shoestring budgets. But a combination of bad art design and poor editing/directing will accentuate the cheapness and create a product that looks fucking sloppy. Utena looked cheap sometimes, but it never looked sloppy. Talent and passion for what you make can go a long way in covering rough spots in a show. Why do you think everyone loves Kill La Kill? That show is cheap as fuck, but the design is so good and the animators clearly love their work and it creates something not just bearable, but enjoyable. Also there are other indicators of animation budget (or effort) that don't have to relate to actual fluidity of movement. There's also the amount of cuts and how much moves in a single shot. I've seen several cheap ass shows that have way more cuts and moving parts than Crystal.

Crystal... God, what the fuck happened. Do you guys remember that digital zoom in to Usagi lying on her bed?? What the fuck was that about.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, Crystal just lacks any and all charm. It's so frustrating. There's been reruns of the original anime on local TV and even the ugliest episodes still had more charm than the first Crystal episode. sadotakuface.jpg

[scrubber]

I'm not a Sailor Moon fan (I hope you were sitting down) but I honestly feel bad for some of the current fans who expected better than this.



lol wut does hair look like anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Da

Her hair is alive! It's like a hair tentacle monster. she better cut it before it attacks.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus that's not even a goddamn face. She has no face. The manga design is restrictive enough but the Crystal one, her eyeballs can't move, her eyebrows have nowhere to go, she has zero forehead. That vapid, frozen mask is saying "kill me".

[(Anonymous)]

Goddamn, she looks walleyed as fuck in the bottom pic. It's like something out of Katy Coope's "How to Draw Manga".

[(Anonymous)]

I was waiting for you to show up. :3 I love reading your thoughts on animations. A bit offtopic, but do you have any recs for some well animated shows? I want some awesome animation.

[scrubber]

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this, it's just that no one series came to mind? I generally appreciate studios as a whole who put out consistently good work. Here are some that come to mind.

Kyoto Animation. Yeah, I know. They're a little more marketing-minded than some other studios might be, gotta make back their money somehow right, but their shows usually keep a certain level of quality that's reassuring. Even though Kyoukai no Kanata had aimless and messy writing it was still animated to the tiniest detail and well done from a purely technical standpoint. Free! and KnK are the only shows I've watched, so I don't know what to recommend. I guess both are good.

Bones. Bones has a long legacy as a company, and some of their earlier stuff is pretty rough, but it was always above watchable, and as a company they seem to consistently try for a level of maturity in their writing. With mixed success, but a little love goes a long way. Currently airing is Captain Earth and Good God, it has not a single original idea in it. But it is beautiful, and I personally find Bones' house style very pleasant to look at. I'd recommend old Fullmetal Alchemist, its directing and editing are superior to the new one sadly. I'd also highly recommend Darker Than Black.

Madhouse. They took a guy writing in a notebook and made it fun to watch how did they even do that???? Watch Death Note. Their shows are sometimes on the cheap/weird side, but they've done a shitton of amazing movies like Perfect Blue, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, and Toyko Godfathers. Like Goddamn. If you're with Madhouse, you're in good hands.


These studios waffle between two extremes pretty effortlessly:

Manglobe gets a lot of praise, but I don't know. Samurai Flamenco and Deadman Wonderland looked pretty shitty most of the time. Approach with caution. They did make Samurai Champloo after all. Ergo Proxy is also beautiful, if a little up its own ass.

Production IG is in a similar category to Manglobe in my mind. I admit I haven't seen their most famous productions, but Blood+ was just so crappy. Blood-C looked great, but had jaw-droppingly fucking terrible writing. But they're doing Haikyuu right now, which looks great. A mixed bag.

From what I understand A1 Pictures is capable of beautiful things, but they also do weird half-assed shit every now and then. Oofuri Furikabutte looks amazing though.


Meanwhile, these studios killed my fucking pets and stepped on their corpses:

Studio Deen. With occasionally shitty art design to boot. Meganebu actually looked nice, but it was basically unwatchable. Otaku-oriented. The uninitiated need not apply.

Bee Train. They're okay if given a big ass budget, but overall work cheap and made Tsubasa oh God, Tsubasa was so bad.

Studio Pierrot. Motherfuckers.


EDIT Sorry I just feel bad about not adding Revolutionary Girl Utena and Mawaru Penguindrum. I still haven't gotten through MP, but it has almost movie-quality animation at times and some of the best art design you might see in a anime. Really amazing stuff.

[othellia]

Do you guys remember that digital zoom in to Usagi lying on her bed?? What the fuck was that about.

Hahahaha, OMG I almost forgot about that.

I've been mildly looking forward to this remake as a "oh, that will be a kinda fun thing to watch every other Sunday when I'm bored thing," so maybe that's why I don't care as much about the animation. (Plus it's fun to see other people complain.) And this is coming from a person who could tell which animation studio did which episodes of ATLA and had a clear, visible preference by the end of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Hahaha, your ATLA mentioned flashed me back to Korra a few months ago. I remember people counting the amount of blinks in S2 episodes when Mir wasn't handling things because they couldn't believe how static the characters were.

[othellia]

OMG, I remember that. God that was painful to watch.

Which kind of brings me back to my point of the lower your expectations/standards, the easier it is to tolerate whatever quality of animation is on the screen.

[(Anonymous)]

KLK was my first thought when I wondered why they couldn't borrow current animators who were used to working on an extremely thin budget (don't remember if other studios chipping in on series is still a thing, but this could have really used it). I'm sure they're already working on the second Little Witch or something, but yeesh.

[(Anonymous)]

There's still specialized freelance animators around, but Toei has a multiple teams of animators that it can use (and is cheap as hell) so...

Also all the budget in the world can't save poor scheduling.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Poor scheduling as in the constant delays? Yeah, I never thought that could be saved/changed by outside teams, but the freelance/other teams-used-to-cheap-budgets thing was my daydream for how the design might have been salvaged to a degree, if they were going to be so cheap. I wasn't thinking of raw manpower.