[ SECRET POST #2750 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2750 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Secret 2 related

[(Anonymous)]

If it had been tested on cats, it wouldn't have been approved, when it's fine for humans

Are you implying that scientists pick a completely random animal to test random drugs on with no basis for it whatsoever, and if that animal happens to die or react badly, everyone throws up their hands and goes 'welp I guess this particular thing is poison forever for everything' and abandons it forever?

That's... not how it works at all...

I would accuse you of trolling but you sound genuinely not knowledgeable about how these things work.

Re: Secret 2 related

[ryttu3k]

No, I was NOT saying how that's how it works!

I was saying that the animals most frequently used for animal testing are not, in fact, humans. I was using cats as an EXAMPLE of something where something may produce a very different response in an animal being tested on rather than on human clinical trials.

Do you honestly think that mice and rats are going to respond to ANYTHING the same way as a human will? Seriously?

And see, here's the thing. There have been drugs that have been approved because they're non-harmful to animals but have SERIOUS side effects in humans. Look up Diethylstilbestrol - after extensive animal testing, it was declared safe as a synthetic estrogen in the belief that it would prevent miscarriage. Turns out, when given to humans? It CAUSES miscarriage and premature births, and for those who did survive, many ended up developing cancers (look up DES Daughters and DES Sons). Clearly, animal testing did fuck all here for safety, and yet it was approved SOLELY based on that. If they had done clinical trials with human volunteers who were aware of the risks, then it most likely would not have been approved. Or Isuprel! Originally used as an asthma medication, the dosage in the UK and Australia that was believed to be safe based on the amounts that were safe for animals ended up causing what's described as an epidemic of deaths. Again, animal testing said, "Hey, this is the safe dose", when it turns out that that's lethal for humans.

Humans and rats are not the same type of animal and are going to react extraordinarily differently to things and so animal testing is unnecessary, how is that so hard to comprehend?