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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-17 06:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2753 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2753 ⌋

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toku_mei: (Default)

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[personal profile] toku_mei 2014-07-18 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
"Badass" Girl Who Isn't Actually Badass. Particularly female characters who physically fight, but don't seem genuine in how they do it - don't have muscle, are wearing high heels and other impractical clothing, their fight scenes are really about how sexy the woman is, not what a great warrior she is, and most of all - she doesn't actually do anything. Maybe one cool initial fight scene where she meets the protagonist, or moment where she proves she's "badass", but then is useless for the rest of the story, and doesn't affect the plot in any way except that she becomes a damsel in distress or background decoration.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
ugghhhhhhhhhhhh THIS yes thank you someone said it

either give me Ellen Ripley levels of badass or go home.

it feels like the writers are tossing us a bone: "like here have your token chick throw out a line about how she doesn't need a man! and she can hold a gun for a few seconds i guess. NOW BACK TO THE REAL FOCUS OF THE STORY!"

i once watched a movie (I think it was In Time with Justin Timberlake) and the female heroine is running away from the bad guys and jumping off buildings and shit in sky-high heels.

that kind of stuff completely RUINS the believability for me and completely takes me out of the story. all for the sake of making the heroine "pretty" or whatever because god forbid we have realistic dirt and sweat and gore in a fucking warzone or post-apocalyptic landscape.

add to this when heroines come out of the water or the bath or wake up out of bed and they're wearing a full face of "natural" makeup.

ain't nobody wake up looking like that.
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Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-07-18 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
"Faux Action Girl" is what TVTropes calls it. I loathe it dearly.
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Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-07-18 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god yes this. It's the worst. I think we've been seeing less and less of this lately, though (thank fuck).

This is the fault of power creep, I think, but it doesn't excuse the fact that it's pretty much always directed at women.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Arrghhh, yes. I think that if you're a character of any gender who's supposed to be some strong, badass fighter, then you should physically look like you could feasibly do just that. Not necessarily bulging with muscle, but certainly not lacking in muscle tone or wearing impractical clothing.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
I decided to revisit Madeleine L'Engle's Time Quintet, and was unpleasantly surprised to see a variant on this: the Faux Female Scientist, in the person of Meg's mother. A microbiologist cooking the family dinner in the lab? Puh-lease.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's the same. I think cooking dinner in a lab is a specific case of the author taking artistic liberties with science, but that happens throughout the books and isn't limited to the mother. Even if you want to limit the case just to the parents: both are scientists, and you'd have a point if the father spent a lot of time doing real, accurate science and being helpful while the mother's job was merely informed to us, but that's not how it is.