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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-18 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2754 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2754 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Of Heroes and Villains, by Minikisa]


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[Orange is the New Black]


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[Axis Powers Hetalia]


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[Lone Survivor]


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[Yasunori Kato, Doomed Megalopolis]


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[Spartacus and Game of Thrones]


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12. [WARNING for underage sex (and probably dub/noncon too)]



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13. [WARNING for rape]



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14. [WARNING for noncon/dubcon]

[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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15. [WARNING for child abuse, rape]























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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #393.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 (tw: rape) - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
WW2 is close to 70 years gone now. Chances are that a lot of kids these days didn't even have a grandparent who fought in it. To them it isn't anything more than a setting for old John Wayne movies. To be honest they probably don't even watch John Wayne movies, it is just a boring thing that happens in a history class. It may not even have happened within living memory of a family member. They don't have that emotional, visceral, reaction to it that a lot of us have.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is both true and horrifying.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
That is reality.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Why horrifying? Are you just as horrified about all the other awful things in history that have passed well beyond living memory?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-07-19 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect their being horrified that the Holocaust is being so easily forgotten is part of their emotional reaction to it. And to be honest, I can understand that and don't really blame them.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Chances are that a lot of kids these days didn't even have a grandparent who fought in it.

A few still have grandparents who were children in/of the camps, FYI.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
A vanishingly small few of a group that was never numerous to start with. You are pushing argument by exception here, and you know it.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You dropped the bait down below, too, didn't you? As OP pointed out, there are tons of books, documentaries, exhibits, museums, and other forms of remembrance of the Holocaust out there. And it WASN'T just Jews the Nazis killed; they started off by promoting a "eugenics" program for PWD that actually gained traction in the US, in the 1920s-30s, before things went pear-shaped. It wasn't just genocide of one race/one religion (although the Jews were targeted for elimination as "the final solution" (Why do you think they called it that?), Hitler and the SS eliminated everyone who wasn't in lockstep with them, and/or did not meet their exacting standards of "just like me."

The second part of the issue with the Hetalia cosplayers wearing Nazi uniforms is the very very very strong (and strengthening) (neo)Nazi movement that is gaining an ever greater foothold on and in the European Union. A large number of the "Euromaidan" protesters in Ukraine were openly Nazis, they even wore swastika armbands (but whenever one of the livestreamers caught sight of that, they turned the cameras away -- so it was very well-hidden from the general public, unless you happened to be watching at the right time).

The cosplayers would be a moot point, if all of these factors weren't at play in the world right now.


























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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-07-19 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I know you're trying to do a Thing, but the Germans got eugenics from the US, not the other way around. The US was the main center of eugenics research through the late thirties--it was only seeing what the Nazis were up to that turned American public opinion around.

(I'd also like to know how you define "large numbers" of neonazis, as while they were present [as they tend to be at every big anti-government protest] playing up their involvement is a key point in pro-Sepratist propaganda)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And some states were still practicing eugenics all the way through the 70's.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Even the youngest child born before the camps would be in their mid-70s now. Children old enough to remember will be in their 80s. Or to put it another way, even if Himmler didn't get them, Old Age almost certainly has. There isn't enough people left with a real connection to the Nazis to worry about, most of the offended these days are people who just heard about how they should be offended instead. Third hand offense, not worth bothering about.

You're more likely to find someone offended by an Israeli army uniform these days, what with what they are doing in Gaza and West Bank. More justification for that offense too. How the world turns.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-07-19 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Or people who know their ancestors lost relatives...that makes it more personal even if it's people you never met.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Please speak only for your country. If even that.