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I don't think POC should be interchangeable.

Now I've read the original comic.

It's boring, Orientalist, WEIRDLY sexualized tripe, and I have no problem with Disney making it not shit.

But if we've gotten people used to all white superhero casts, I don't see why everyone couldn't be Japanese (although Fred was originally Ainu and that had it's own issues), but i'm not horribly bothered by it.

I'm more bothered by the reuse of the female model with such minor changes.

Ah, thanks for that about Fredzilla. The posts mentioned a second white dude but didn't explain, so I'd assumed it was a secondary character.

And yeah, I don't think they should necessarily be interchangeable either. But it should get its own term; not fall under the generic white washing labels, which is what I've seen a lot of posts do.

But then I also think there's a difference in race switching characters between say, an Indian in the original canon who gets changed to a Mexican actor on screen because "all brown people are the same" and this, where (to the best of my knowledge) it was originally an all Asian cast and one of the Asian characters gets switched to a black character for the sake of diversity.

And I know that comes with its own set of issues as well and you get into the whole Hollywood pitfall of execs seeing a film with an all Asian cast and marketing it as an "Asian" movie and so on and so forth. And that Disney has made films like Aladdin and Mulan and they both did fine, so there really is no excuse to mix and match races for Big Hero 6. But I also think it's good, especially with the influx of superhero movies, to have that mixed representation, since as far as POC go there's like... what? Nick Fury, Heimdall, and Falcon? And that one other Asian background character in Thor?

(And now I'm kind of disappointed myself with the Fredzilla news. It would have been amazing if they'd have gone full on Captain Planet and made him Latino, given the California influence.)

Sorry if my thoughts are all over the place and don't make much sense. Didn't even go into Honey Lemon's stock female character model, but yeah I'm with you on that.

But I also think it's good, especially with the influx of superhero movies, to have that mixed representation, since as far as POC go there's like... what?

I wouldn't really have a problem with this idea if Disney didn't make movies starring people of color once every five years. To throw as much representation into SIX people because they don't want to branch out is really trite.

That's true too. I think a part of me wants this to spawn another wave of films like the 90s Renaissance.

I mean, it started with The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, but then you ended up with Aladdin (1992), Pocahontas (1995), Hunchback (1996), Mulan (1997), Emperor's New Groove (2000), Atlantis (2001), and Lilo & Stitch (2002). All with at least one, if not more, main POC characters.

And I'm almost okay with them taking baby steps if that's what it takes to get them moving back in that direction.

There could've been an Ainu character? Aw man, now I'm a little sad about that. I don't even think they're represented all that much in Japanese media.

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