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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-20 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2756 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2756 ⌋

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Re: Genderswap and abusive ships

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-21 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Being equal doesn't automatically a healthy ship make. You can have absolute equals and still have a very unhealthy relationship. A relationship that's healthy "because" they are equals makes no sense.

And as I've mentioned upthread, every argument I've made here has been specifically about the actual state of the relationships, now how others perceive a relationship. That's a different can of worms altogether, and one that I'm just ignoring when we are discussing these ships predominantly in cultural contexts that regularly dismiss female-on-male rape and abuse.

I think you and I may be operating on very different definitions of things like "lines", "limits", and "dynamics". Because if we have two sets of partners who physically push each other to their limits and beyond, who rough house in a safe and consensual manner, and who affectionately mock each other all the while, then I don't see a difference in dynamic between the one where they are equals and the one where they are very different in size/capability.

If that kind of relationship is healthy because they're equals, then that implies you are pushing your partner to your limit, not their limit, and that's disrespectful and unhealthy anyway. If you are actually pushing your partner to their limit and not yours, then it won't matter what their limit actually is in relation to yours.