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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-23 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2759 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2759 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
It was his Gary Stu-ness that got to me. Accepted into order he shouldn't be a part of? Has unique and cool weapon? Inserted disproportionately into affairs? Main character mourns his death in lovingly framed angst?

I've been told I don't understand fantasy archetypes, but I couldn't help seeing him as a Poochie.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-07-24 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
He would have been more of a Sue if he had been the main character and/or the one to defeat the Shadows and the Vorlon. Once you add Sheridan into the mix, though, he doesn't seem so suish. And given that Sinclair originally founded the rangers and was also their leader at the time Marcus joined, I don't think it is that much of a stretch for him to be able to join.

And he was the Ranger representative. So I don't think he was disproportionately added into affairs. He had less screen time than Delenn, Sheridan, G'Kar, Londo, and Susan, more screen than Frankin, and probably about equal with Garibaldi. And as for the mourning thing, Susan may or may not have had feelings for him and either way knew he was in love with her and cared for him as a friend.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I just hate him irrationally? lol It's been years since I watched it but I felt like he was ALWAYS on screen explaining something special about himself, although maybe he was an exposition vehicle and I don't remember accurately. And I know Ivanova's grief was complicated - iirc, he sacrificed himself for her and even if she hadn't cared about him at all, survivor's guilt could push someone to tears. But I seem to remember that shot of her crying going on, like, forever. GRIEVE FOR MARCUS. (For the record, I also read The Scarlet Letter and got the exact opposite message out of it than I should have. Apparently it's a tragedy?)