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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-24 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2760 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2760 ⌋

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[The Penny Dreadfuls]


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[True Blood, Game of Thrones]


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[Free!]


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(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you're close, personal friends with both of them to know their real personalities and not the ones put out there for the public?

+1

(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really annoying when people assume the relationship dynamics between two people if they don't know either personally. Even then, unless one of them is saying they're unhappy and/or dislike the other person in the relationship, you have no idea what's going on.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. If your outward behavior is heinous, I think it'd be really hard to argue that you're a sweetheart on the inside, though lots of people try. ("I have an awesome friend! But they have this bad habit of telling me I'm fat all the time...") The other way around is easier.

Keep in mind I have no idea who that guy is, though.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on if those insults are actually meant to be insulting tbh. My longtime best friend and I call each other dickhead sometimes, but it's meant to be endearing. We also have fake capslock fights that are meant to be jokes.

I can see what you mean by frenemies who might say something like, "You look good in that for someone who is a size 14." But assuming you know the relationship dynamics between two people who might have their own sense of humor or personality quirks behind closed doors is a bit presumptuous.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-24 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In this example, the fat insults are clearly negative behavior, though. "Bad habit" and also... that's what the example illustrates. Heinous outward behavior. So we assume the insults aren't jokes between two understanding friends.

Your situation is fine, but it's a completely different thing. (Though you could argue that if someone frequently calls their friend fat or makes fun of their weight as a joke, that still reinforces the idea that demeaning overweight people is fine.)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-25 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
It still could be argued that it varies in situations. I have a cousin who calls her boyfriend a pig out of endearment when he eats 3 plate-fulls worth for dinner. She clearly loves him and smiles at him when she says it and it makes him laugh. He's also super fit, so it's not meant to be mean.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-25 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it could mean different things in different situations. But in this situation we're talking about right here, it's negative. Gosh, this is frustrating but it feels like you're either trolling me or simply not reading/understanding what the original comment said. The whole point was to illustrate an example of people who try to rationalize bad outward behavior. So yes, in this situation that we are discussing right here, the insult was a straight up insult.

YES, sometimes people insult each other in fun. That is not what the comment was about, so bringing up examples of how people insult each other for fun is interesting, but not actually relevant to the discussion at hand, which I've reiterated above. Nobody is arguing that insults are always insults all the time with no mitigating circumstances ever, okay?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-25 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think 10 years ago this may have held more truth, but in the world we live in now of practically zero privacy for celebrities I don't think that's so much the case. Even the most talented actor couldn't keep up a fake nice persona all the time for every interview, appearance, and tweet. It's definitely more difficult to weed through sensationalized articles and one time freak outs, but the longer someone is in the limelight the more the public gets an idea of who they are. Of course, not on a personal level, but you could figure out if someone is genuinely sincere or has an unfavorable attitude about them.