[ SECRET POST #2760 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Penny Dreadfuls]


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[True Blood, Game of Thrones]


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[Tamora Pierce]


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[Free!]


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[Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift]


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[Masterchef]


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[Game of Thrones]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #394.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1? (if this is one, let me know what) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

On the one hand, the troll is strong in this one.

On the other hand, I did make a secret about two years ago complaining about the way that "football fandom" (as opposed to football fans) seemed to involve an inordinate amount of slashing of players and not a lot of football discussion, and there was a definite feeling that that split was largely (but not entirely) along gender lines.

There's also the blog Popular, where three* replies into Three Lions somebody was complaining that their friend spent an inordinate amount of 1996 "explaining the offside rule to girls called Fiona with red crosses painted on their faces singing about 'thirty years of hurt'".

In conclusion... yeah. The Premier League starts up again in a few weeks, so let's all have fun then!

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's because slash has risen with the popularisation of the internet and fandoms don't have to depend on zines to publish anything. It does not occur to the rest that you can have a thing such as shipping xD .

Though, me and my mother spent a significant time fanning (is there a gender neutral term D:, well she fangirled, I fanboyed) over the players on their own. I'll tell her she can do it WITH MORE GUYS AT THE SAME MOMENT. We'll have a blast. Yes, none of my friends are sports fans, NONE.

I'm not surprised about offside being misunderstood xD, I know people not getting it. However, I don't know the rules of rugby. Basketball is just similar to football to me with shorter times and more hoops ;) .

[cushlamochree]

Well, football fandom (and sports fandom in general, and fandom in general) does have a lot to do with gender. It definitely is traditionally male-dominated. There's definitely a ton of gender stuff going on in sports fandom. But the point is that being one kind of fan or another doesn't make you illegitimate as a fan. As long as you care about it, it's all good.

And I think the Popular entry you're talking about (also, holy crap, someone dropping a Popular reference! Awesome! I love that blog!) actually does some good work in talking about that. Tom's post goes into a lot of stuff about the interaction between class, fandom, and football in the 1990s, when the game was opening up to the middle-class, which of course has been talked about a lot to that point, and then you have a lot of people in the comments, including the comment that you're referring to, extending that analysis to gender. There are divisions in fandom obviously, and it's no use pretending they don't exist, but to me, there's nothing wrong with having multiple kinds of fans. What it's about is the thing that we all love and the shared experience that comes from loving it. That's what's important about fandom, not about who's been here longest or knows it best.

[(Anonymous)]

A different OP in this thread, so I don't know this blog - I assume it's UK based because of class division (grew up in Poland where upper class usually played football but everyone was a fan - typical warrior chav types were not in a different class).

Anyway, there is a division on public commentary of sports regarding gender. Noticed that women usually were questioned when daring to share an opinion on tactics or squads and mercilessly tested on knowledge. Other viewpoint was that a female fan was a "special awesome snowflake". Neither is true, as the amount of fans did not differ between genders at all.

However, it's not prevalent as it was recently, so it's good.

[cushlamochree]

Yeah, there are definitely a lot of people who have those views, all over the world, including where I am (in the USA, although the blog in question is UK-based). But that's no reason to give them credence, you know? It's definitely interesting that it's not really related to the viewership numbers where you are, that's kind of fascinating.

[(Anonymous)]

SA. I live in Scotland now, and the sentiment is not prevalent at all, viewers and game goers are still around 80% of everyone :P . I've posted above about how Polish media dealt with world cup - by spreading sexism. Usually women stayed silent with this, but this year there had been an uproar, so changes, yay.

[(Anonymous)]

You shouldn't assume that people who are in the football fandom aren't football fans, too. Online I mostly talk to people about slashing players. When I want to talk about the actual game, I talk to my real life football buddies, to the people I meet up with to watch the games. That's where I get all the discussion I need, but I can't talk to those people about slashing players. So online, that's what I mostly talk about, but that doesn't mean that I don't DO football discussion. I just do it elsewhere.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly f!s throws around "troll" bizarrely often. People with dumb opinions exist.

I don't see the point. It's not like it stops people from responding, since everyone has to get their "I'm dismissing your opinion! Look how much you're not affecting me!!!" comment in.