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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-25 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2761 ]


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Re: unpopular opinions thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Machiavelli and Nietzsche are awesome though

when they're not being read by teenagers trying to be edgy
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Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-07-26 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I have never met anyone who's read them for any other reason so I cannot confirm or deny your assertion.

I know that Nietzsche was a spectacularly misogynistic dickbag even for his time, though, so I have reason to doubt it.

Re: unpopular opinions thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeahhhhh. I think there are ways in which he was less misogynist than his time, and there are ways in which he was more, and there are ways in which he was of his time, and there are ways in which he was just a spectacularly weird individual in a lot of ways. He's also a writer where it's hard to track sometimes what he actually thinks about a given issue which can be frustrating. But he's also a really interesting critic of the views of his time, especially the moral and aesthetic views, and he has some fascinating thought experiment-type things and he can be surprisingly beautiful at times.

Machiavelli is just awesome if you're at all interested in Renaissance Italian history, or political theory, or republicanism, and if you're willing to look for something beyond "evil is badass" or "it's satire". Astonishingly clever.

Re: unpopular opinions thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sure you have. They just haven't mentioned it because they read Nietzsche and Machiavelli for reasons other than being able to say they've read Nietzsche and Machiavelli.
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Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] a_potato 2014-07-26 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, Machiavelli and Nietzsche read like teenagers trying to be edgy.

Re: unpopular opinions thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
There is certainly an extent to which both of them are probably trying to be edgy, or at least shocking. Nietzsche in particular is v big into saying things that are patently ridiculous as an attempt to get you to think things through.

But I also think a lot of it is them being misread in that way.
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Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] a_potato 2014-07-26 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I do think it's fair to consider whether they may be misread. Also, as I'm thinking about it, it occurs to me that their writings might just be very period-specific. And that leads me to wonder about the concept of timelessness, and whether it has any actual meaning.

I'll have to think more about this. To me, their ideas come across as being very simple when subjected to scrutiny, but it might be worth reevaluating where they were coming from.

da

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's likely there's also a thread of 'Tolkein is cliche' in there. They were both very influential writers in their schools, so there's been a lot of expanding on or arguing against what they have to say. They also both poked at some of the sacred cows of their day, which have since been taken out back and slaughtered, so the apparent simplicity of their ideas might be partly attributed to the change in social and philosophical framework