[ SECRET POST #2764 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2764 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal]


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03.
[Teen Wolf]


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04.
[Game Grumps]


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05.
[Spring Awakening]


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06.
[Free! Eternal Summer]


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07.
[Penny Dreadful/Sherlock Holmes]


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08.
[Mobile Fighter G Gundam]


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09.
[Tucker & Dale vs. Evil]


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10.
[he Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug - Benedict Cumberbatch/Andy Serkis]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #394.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[gondremark]

Are you me, OP?!
I have gone on very long rants in all sorts of places (including a college classroom) about how Victorian literature (the Sherlock Holmes stories in particular) are not full of gay, it's just that Victorians aren't uncomfortable with close male friendships the way we are (you want gay Victorians? read Raffles or Dorian Gray, that's what real subtext looks like).

And with Penny Dreadful, which is more aware of it's Victorian context than most people give it credit for, I went into that episode assuming there was going to be real subtext between Mina and Vanessa, and was disappointed to just have run-of-the-mill Victorian Besties.

[(Anonymous)]

No, the Holmes stories aren't purposefully subtexty. That does not mean one cannot read them as such, without imputing authorial intent (I always pretend [emphasis pretend] that they are a couple but Doyle doesn't know). It feels (correct me if I'm wrong) that "ranting" implies you are somehow offended by the idea that characters you love might be slashed. In which case, side-eyeing you hard.

[gondremark]

I'm not at all offended when people ship them, and your way of going about it, pretending they're gay behind Doyle's back, is a very elegant way of dealing with it.
What "offends" me and inspires lengthy monologues is the idea that they're gay in canon and that Doyle is somehow the god of "early" gay representation, and this comes from a misunderstadning of the context and the culture the stories came from.

(I am very very pro headcanon and pro slash. When I say that the Holmes stories have no subtext, I'm not making a moral judgement, I'm not saying it's good that there's no subtext or that shipping the characters somehow ruins something, I'm simply saying that Doyle put no subtext there)