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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-30 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2766 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2766 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Rent]


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[Attack on Titan]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Jeff the Killer/creepypasta]


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[the last airbender/ lok]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Michael Ballack]


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[Transformers]


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Notes:

Staying late at work again. Sorry. :(

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you would be okay with it if those people were white or she was brown.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, no shit, because then the problems wouldn't be there.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're saying that you don't see the characters as human beings but as skin colors. To you, Dany isn't Dany but 'white woman #1'.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I see the characters as many-faceted human beings. One of those facets is their race. It's a facet that's very relevant in the society we live in, that's been extremely important in the culture historically. Their race does not define their character, but it also can't be erased from who they are, and it's impossible to analyze a scene like this without taking it into account, when the scene plays into so many existing cultural images to do with race.

You cannot divorce anything from its history. We're defined by our history as much as by anything and while we can try to move on we can't just pretend that it never existed. That's what you're asking people to do. Dany isn't white woman number one but she is a white woman. Inescapably so.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
DA, obviously

Kudos for your thoughtful, reasoned response. It's totally wasted on that anon troll, but I appreciated it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-18 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
We can definitely divorce things from history. By creating a fantasy world that has no connection to our history.

Why does this need to be difficult.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-07-31 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hi troll.

I love Dany as a character. This was just a really bad directoral choice.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-07-31 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Seriously, this really reads as trolling to me.

The problem is the white savior image, not anything about the characters themselves or the rest of the story (though it has other, separate problems).

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, obviously, because then it wouldn't be screaming WHITE SAVIOUR from every angle.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Translation: "I bet you wounldn't have a problem with it if it wasn"t problematic."

Yes, exactly.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you.. kidding? I mean, the reason the picture is uncomfortable is due to the racial implications. OP isn't uncomfortable because she thinks those people are about to drop Dany on the floor. If they were all white or Dany was brown, there wouldn't be unfortunate racial implications so... yeah.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. That's why I'm hoping that the one ruling Westeros in the end is white. I don't want a PoC Savior. Let whites rule whites and browns rule browns.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You're being sarcastic, right?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-31 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Because apartheid worked out so well.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-31 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Westeros needs any savior it can get.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-31 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Westeros is white, so it should have a white ruler. Being saved by a person of another race is problematic.