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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-31 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2767 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2767 ⌋

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I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-31 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Because you know that didn't reflect well on you. Maybe this is a good opportunity to consume more media with Asian casts? That way, you could experience more of the physical diversity of an entire continent. I don't think you'd make that mistake again if you did.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-07-31 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Also not adding to the dogpile. Those are some pretty distinctive sunglasses, after all, and ones that are iconically associated with a particular person. You're already embarrassed by your error and you understand it was wrong, I'm not going to call you evil.

That said, let's recommend some Asian movies!

If you dig on kung fu, the recent Ip Man film with Donnie Yen (and its sequel) are fun as hell, and Donnie Yen is just generally the shit. The Raid: Redemption is also a ton of fun if you like, just, two hours of crazy-ass violence. And Ong Bak is a good place to start with the physical miracle that is Tony Jaa.

If you like romance, basically ANYTHING by Wong Kar-Wai. Ang Lee's Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is also just a beautiful sad love story, for those of us who happen to be suckers for sad love stories.

If you like nutty pulp adventure, I'd recommend K-20: The Fiend With 20 Faces. It's like if the Shadow and Darkman had a kid and the kid got really into parkour.

If you dig horror, there's a world of J-horror and K-horror waiting to keep you up at night. Ju-On is one of the scariest things I've yet seen, and A Tale Of Two Sisters is AMAZINGLY eerie in a very quiet, slow-build way.

Finally, I'm not even sure how to categorize Clash of Empires. Historical/mythological/fantasy/action-adventure? It's freakin' crazy, and awesome as hell.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
This is the best response, and good advice, OP.

Embarrassment is just your brain's way of telling you you can do better.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Movie/TV recs is an excellent idea!

The Joy Luck Club movie. The book is also good, but the movie has one of the largest Chinese casts for an American movie I've ever seen.

Anything by Akira Kurosawa, but especially Ikiru, Seven Samurai, Rashomon, The Hidden Fortress and Throne of Blood



Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
You don't rate Ran as must-see Kurosawa? It blew me completely away.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ikiru is probably the one movie I'd save if all other evidence of human life were going to be destroyed.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2014-08-01 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
No, just no. I have no problem telling Asian people apart from one another, and that particular set of hair style, sunglasses and facial structure make me think Kim Jong Ill.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is so stupid.

Yeah, they might make that mistake again. You know why? Because people sometimes look like other people.

I know there's that whole, "they all look the same" bullshit, but man, people make that kind of mistake with members of their own race. The truth is that, even though there is a lot of diversity between individuals, there's a lot of similarities as well, and sometimes enough things are similar (or strike someone as similar at first glance) that people fuck up. Telling someone that they can stop that by "watching more media with Asian casts" is disingenuous and honestly, I think it's more problematic than making a mistake.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, let's assume it's an honest mistake and not racial at all. But... explain to me how people sharing recs for movies that feature Asian POCs or watching movies featuring more Asian POCs causes damage?

OP AGAIN.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if anybody will see this but I feel the need to explain a little further. I already said downthread what happened, that I was scrolling fast, thought I saw George Takei posing with Kim Jong Il, said "WHAT? Ohhhhh. Wow, that's terrible. I should make it a secret."

I was upset when I read the first few comments but honestly? Before I even scrolled down to read them, I looked at the secret and realized it was actually pretty awful. Because Kim Jong Il was a brutal dictator responsible for the suffering of millions, and Emily Takei was most likely a wonderful lady who suffered quite a bit in the internment camps. That, combined with the thought that George Takei would see this made me uncomfortable. So that's why I had it taken down.

I can see why people thought I was saying "all Asians look alike" but on the other hand, if I wanted to say that I would have made a secret saying that.

I'm getting out of this thread. I hope people see this.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and I wouldn't ever want to say that. And I'm not offended by people reccing Asian media. And NOW I'm leaving.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think rec'ing or watching movies does any damage. I'm bothered by the idea that, if OP just watches some movies, then OP won't make the mistake of confusing one person of Asian descent with another again.

Re: I'm not going to dogpile you, OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
That comment was mine, and I got confused because I don't think I suggested that movies would fix the problem. I meant that if the OP were familiar with the wide range of diversity in Asian cultures, they likely wouldn't be so quick to mistake one Asian person for another. My response was very poorly phrased, and I apologize.