[ SECRET POST #335 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #335 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I'm not actually around, Semagic is doing the work for me, so you guys do the name that fandom! :D

Also... the amount of not posted secrets today worries me. Perhaps some of you could do with a refresher on the rules and regulations?

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 47 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken link, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] WTF?, [ 1 ] Teal Dear Rant Sans Secret But Amusing Enough To Make A Seperate Category For Because Of The Tattoo.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Arby's anon! (Ho shi-- we're branching out!)

[(Anonymous)]

I just started following these threads ... and I can't say anything on the RP or the canon (which I know is going to earn me something like "but why o why did you butt in, o arby's anon, bringer of beef and cow tongue?")

The reason why I butt in, kind readers and gentle anons and nongentle anons and other notanons is to comment on protagonists!

I perfectly understand this. But also has to deal with activity and IC-interaction. Protagonists, if they don't have a clear plan or power resources, won't win because they are magically protagonists. is something I must debate about! And say that yes, they do win because they are magically protagonists. Take YuGiOh, for example. The protagonist should, most often, never win! When they do it is a stroke of luck, chance, the villains fucked up, AN ANCIENT SPIRIT INVADED THEIR BRAIN AND STARTED KICKASS CRUISECONTROL! that sort of thing. Protagonists LEVEL UP! JUST in nick of time.

This isn't TB only happening: Naruto, Bleach, Death Note crews, etc, there's a clear advantage to the villains for sheer power/intelligence level in a neutral ground. This would change, of course, if good guys do some sort of backlash. This ties to it as well. Antagonists are supposed to have a sort of 'advantage' but protagonists have that factor X of being protagonists. That's what makes successfully playing antagonists in RPs so difficult. They have to maintain the balance of being their antagonist-y self as well as balance and maintain story atmosphere. They have to compensate and coordinate and work twice as hard as the protagonists. Is this fair? Nah, maybe not. But the very best RPs with antagonists are always the ones where it feels like canon, no matter how slated against the protagonists the situation is! Because you want to be recognizable from an outside perspective.

Pissed off reader syndrome is when something completely left wing appears to happen against authorial atmosphere and intent. It is almost never fair. But it happens and I, as the arby's anon, believe it to be valid.

Would you like fries with that?

Re: Arby's anon! (Ho shi-- we're branching out!)

[sir-hellsing.livejournal.com]

is something I must debate about! And say that yes, they do win because they are magically protagonists. Take YuGiOh, for example. The protagonist should, most often, never win! When they do it is a stroke of luck, chance, the villains fucked up, AN ANCIENT SPIRIT INVADED THEIR BRAIN AND STARTED KICKASS CRUISECONTROL! that sort of thing. Protagonists LEVEL UP! JUST in nick of time.

In my honest opinion? That makes it for a bad role playing (and writing too, IMO, I'm not familiar with YuGIOh, so I can't elaborate further opinion).

They have to maintain the balance of being their antagonist-y self as well as balance and maintain story atmosphere. They have to compensate and coordinate and work twice as hard as the protagonists. Is this fair? Nah, maybe not. But the very best RPs with antagonists are always the ones where it feels like canon, no matter how slated against the protagonists the situation is! Because you want to be recognizable from an outside perspective.

But we're in a multifandom rp, not in a canon TB rp, not in the novels (in which SO far, the antagonists HAVE the advantage and then the author died).

Sorry, but I don't agree.

Arby's again

[(Anonymous)]

It's totally chill to not agree. You go with that frosty, I'll go with mine. But this might be why people raise some brows at the RP feeling "RCO controlled" (remote operating conventions?) and stagnant. Since protagonists give combo meals of change and antagonists don't move. It's part of the game (in the series, not RP) to balance it out, you know. It's what makes it exciting. WILL SO AND SO TRIUMPH? WHO THE HELL KNOWS? Otherwise there's no knife-edge tension, nothing to stay tuned! for.

Jus' sayin', from my POV there's a reason why the characters might be drawing crit or question marks. And I can say that I've seen it work to be what I thought was rather sexyness in other RPs before.

It's chill if you don't like my definition of sexy! Totally frigid~.

[sir-hellsing.livejournal.com]

I know what are you coming from, but is the antagonists who are giving those "combo meals" in this case? If you read threads above, OP has an issue with the GOOD GUYS not doing much.