ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-06 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #335 ]


⌈ Secret Post #335 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I'm not actually around, Semagic is doing the work for me, so you guys do the name that fandom! :D

Also... the amount of not posted secrets today worries me. Perhaps some of you could do with a refresher on the rules and regulations?

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 47 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken link, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] WTF?, [ 1 ] Teal Dear Rant Sans Secret But Amusing Enough To Make A Seperate Category For Because Of The Tattoo.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

McAnon's head/McWall OTP

(Anonymous) 2007-12-07 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
...actually, I would imagine protagonists are protagonists no matter the setting. Like it or not, a degree of authorial intent ought to be followed in fan work like RP and fan fiction and whatnot. The antagonists are super powerful, certainly, but, you know, there is a reason the underdog is so common a theme. It's not about them logically being the stronger force there, it's about how, in the spirit of storytelling, they are not meant to utterly triumph. Heroes in good stories lose for a reason. A story featuring such a hopeless situation would eventually get disheartening and mundane.

LOL yeah good thing because that'd be what I'd call...to put it politely, a poor decision.

I understand that the antagonists have done this and this and this, but really I don't see the point of the protagonists even being there if there's absolutely nothing they can do, if you are making this into a villain's story. I do hope there is a strong degree of OOC cooperation there, otherwise I'd have to feel so very sorry for your protagonist players indeed.

I obviously haven't! And, hopefully just as obviously, I don't intend to.

Re: McAnon's head/McWall OTP

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
See, we'll have to disagree with this. I believe a character should be role played as a character, not as a label. That's just me. Victories and defeats should be given according to their work and plans.

And I don't think the situation is hopeless! Honestly. That was, IMO, an exaggeration. It's not like the bad guys are slaving the good guys. They are nicely apart and occassionaly poke each others. That's it. Why? Because of an intrigue setting and bad guys work on basis of customers (that often cross good guys). Current customers aren't. So. One bad guy (Dietrich) is tricking a good guy (Esther) as he DID before canonically. That's it.

I do hope there is a strong degree of OOC cooperation there, otherwise I'd have to feel so very sorry for your protagonist players indeed.

There is agreement! :D I play Lilith, after all, who is like the dead but BIGGEST hero in her canon. However, she doesn't act unless there's a genocide happening. :/

Re: McAnon's head/McWall OTP

(Anonymous) 2007-12-07 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
...in the end I think what is coming most strongly into play about this is your love for the villain coinciding with your lack of understanding of what a canon villain (esp. in the case of a story line Trinity Blood which is far less ambiguous than you would think despite the protagonists' setbacks) is for.

LOL YES A CHARACTER IS A CHARACTER IS A CHARACTER can and will be labeled; a story without a protagonist/antagonist formula inevitably encounters problems; no, it absolutely does not matter how much you like or empathize with a villain, because at the end of the day s/he IS an antagonist and any high school literature class could tell you that a protagonist advances a plot while an antagonist stagnates it and is therefore meant to be defeated.

I'm done with this. Absolutely nothing I am saying is getting through to you and I'm honestly beginning to question your intellect, which is a big red internet police alarm to bring this "discussion" to an end.

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
As you are being rude, I will too. Have a nice day! :)