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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-03 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2770 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fair enough.

I think there's something to be said for the argument that if forcefeeding the birds is bad, then killing them is probably bad too. But I wouldn't insist on that. The calf brains part of it is perplexing enough as it is.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I'd argue that just straight up killing the animal in a swift manner would be a lot more humane than the stress of that feeding process. But that's just me.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you have never seen an average American eating and seen how MUCH they eat on average, you may not be entirely clear on how terrible force-feeding really is. Seriously, nearly half the US population is overweight. No one has yet presented this as an argument to stop birthing babies to spare them the torture.

Geese are indeed force fed, but it's done by hand and their necks are massaged to ensure the corn goes down well so they can digest properly and they are generally treated well, with individual attention given to each goose: there is absolutely no grounds to say they they suffer physically through this process.

Certainly nothing compared to the horrible industrial raising of chickens which turns my stomach: it can make you re-evaluate what humane treatment actually means.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
2/10

Da

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"there is absolutely no grounds to say they they suffer physically through this process."


what? where do you get that information?

Re: Da

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT. Obviously, because no goose has ever testified to this in a court of law. I rest my case, yer honor.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Maybe. But all those animals raised for meat are fattened beyond what they'd normally eat because manufacturers want a high meat to bone ratio. In some cases, hormone injections, breeding, and engineering feed mixes are a part of that fattening process. So is limited physical movement.

Ducks and geese raised for their foie gras are force fed in the sense that they're fed large amounts, but generally they're otherwise free range.