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I can understand drawing the line at fois gras, as it's made by forcefeeding the poor birds. Calf brains on the other hand...not sure what it is that makes it a worse thing than meat in general.

Yes, came here to say that. I understand foie gras being an issue because of how it's produced, so to say. But cows are being killed for other parts as well - if you're okay with steak, well that comes from the same place as those brains. I understand it might squick some people, but objectively there's not much difference.

If you're against meat in general, watching cooking shows will give you a hard time. If not, it's a hypocritical to pick and choose which meat is acceptable.

Yeah, fair enough.

I think there's something to be said for the argument that if forcefeeding the birds is bad, then killing them is probably bad too. But I wouldn't insist on that. The calf brains part of it is perplexing enough as it is.

AYRT

I'd argue that just straight up killing the animal in a swift manner would be a lot more humane than the stress of that feeding process. But that's just me.

Well, if you have never seen an average American eating and seen how MUCH they eat on average, you may not be entirely clear on how terrible force-feeding really is. Seriously, nearly half the US population is overweight. No one has yet presented this as an argument to stop birthing babies to spare them the torture.

Geese are indeed force fed, but it's done by hand and their necks are massaged to ensure the corn goes down well so they can digest properly and they are generally treated well, with individual attention given to each goose: there is absolutely no grounds to say they they suffer physically through this process.

Certainly nothing compared to the horrible industrial raising of chickens which turns my stomach: it can make you re-evaluate what humane treatment actually means.

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"there is absolutely no grounds to say they they suffer physically through this process."

what? where do you get that information?

Re: Da

(Anonymous) - 2014-08-04 03:49 (UTC) - Expand

DA

Maybe. But all those animals raised for meat are fattened beyond what they'd normally eat because manufacturers want a high meat to bone ratio. In some cases, hormone injections, breeding, and engineering feed mixes are a part of that fattening process. So is limited physical movement.

Ducks and geese raised for their foie gras are force fed in the sense that they're fed large amounts, but generally they're otherwise free range.

I agree. The calf gets eaten anyway, so I think (even though I am squicked by it like woah) using every part of the animal is actually the proper thing to do. Foie gras is a different matter.

That's why I'd refuse to watch a cooking show where they're cooking calf brains. Pure ick factor.

I wish I felt safe eating brains, because they look fucking delicious

And they really are delicious.

More for you, then, because you can have my share.

Are you worried about Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy? Because I guess that would be a reason not to eat bovine brains. (Depending on how the calves themselves were kept and fed, that is.)

The other reason I can see is that some cultures traditionally disapprove of organ meats. I pretty much grew up on chicken livers, so whatever.

Yeah, BSE and other similar prion diseases. It just seems like too much of a risk. Like, just irresponsible.

That's the only reason, I have no problem whatsoever with organ meats in general. In fact I love them.

There are also other diseases and parasites that can make offal risky, like hydatids is enough of a problem in southern regions of Australia that selling offal is banned.

Meanwhile, I once tried a steak and kidney pie. I hated the kidney, the taste and texture both repulsed me.

Re: Brains are gross

(Anonymous) - 2014-08-04 08:17 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Brains are gross

mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com - 2014-08-04 08:23 (UTC) - Expand

They're delicious. West Sumatrans know how to cook them best and I love it (it's just not really good for your cholesterol level to eat them too much)

well, I heard horror stories of some calfs getting starved to keep the meat tender n shit... don't know if that's appliable to their brain though.

it's probably calf brain to minimize the BSE risk.

I believe it's that they're kept in boxes to keep the meat tender -- the boxes are so small they can't move, so they don't develop their muscles.

Damn. Good to remember.

Ew. Why would you want a fatty underdeveloped muscle anyway?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-04 03:14 (UTC) - Expand

That's weird, the most expensive ranges of meat in Japan are the ones that came from cows that were raised freely. Same goes for pigs raised in the mountain ranges--they get their exercise, so the meat stay lean and not overly fatty.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-04 04:13 (UTC) - Expand

I think people hear "forcefeeding" and recoil, but... if we were honest, how is forcefeeding worse than how most animals are processed for meat, or how chickens are kept in battery farms for their eggs? At Hudson Valley (which I think is the only large scale foie gras producer in the U.S. at the moment), at least the birds aren't kept in cages.

I'm an omnivore, BTW. I accept that there's a certain amount of ugliness that supplies the food I eat, but I don't think there's a huge difference between foie gras and an omelet when it comes how the animals themselves are treated.

Yeah, I'm a vegan and I was wondering why calf brains in particular is so much worse than any other kind of meat that comes from a cow (or any other animal). Fois Gras I can understand, but calf brains just seems like a random thing to single out.

If it's because it comes from a young animal then that doesn't make sense either since most chickens, pigs, and lambs (of course) are usually only a few months old when they're killed for meat too. Maybe calf brains are a by-product of veal and that's why it's so terrible (idk if that's actually the case, but it's the only logical thing I could think of)?

Hmm... maybe it's the "baby cow" thing? I know some folks are squeamish about eating stuff like lamb.

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