[ SECRET POST #2776 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2776 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But NONE of that is addressed in the film. There's no suggestion ever made that Spock's parents may have known someone on the Kelvin or that Spock spent time on Earth and gained a different perspective.

Instead, the audience is just supposed to buy that a crucial and central part of Spock's character is suddenly gone because…REASONS!

Spock's shame for his emotions is centrally tied to the bullying and discrimination he experienced growing up on Vulcan -- both of which are the only things about him we're shown before the romance is revealed. He shuts down his emotions and is ashamed because he's desperately trying to be the "perfect" Vulcan to prove those who disparaged him wrong. He's overcompensating and it took DECADES for him in TOS to address this. To make such a huge change to his character in the reboots and not address WHY it happened is, to me, OOC and it is not honoring what the character of Spock means.

And, to be honest, it just feels like they put the romance in for cheap shock value. Which is why there's no real buildup to it at all.

I'm not asking that the young actors be exactly the same -- I'm asking that they stay true to the characters and, when they diverge, for there to be a reason WHY.

Having Kirk insult Spock over his heritage when he's explicitly shown not to tolerate bigotry in TOS pisses me off, especially.

You can do something different, but it has to make sense and be true to the original as well.

Otherwise, why reboot the work in the first place? Why not just make up completely new characters in a completely new setting?

[lunabee34]

I completely agree with you that I'd like for those reasons to be articulated more clearly. I really, really love what fandom has done in exploring how the roads have forked.

I'm sorry you weren't able to enjoy the movies. :(

[(Anonymous)]

I'm glad you liked them. I'm not saying your reasons for liking it are illegitimate or anything.

It's just that these things about the characters are really important to me and I'm not against changing them up, but I feel the writers needed to spend a lot more time fleshing them out and developing them for it to work.

But I do agree with you that I love what the fandom has done in exploring the differences and meanings. The aftermath of Vulcan's destruction was terribly handled in canon (in my opinion) but there's a ton of great fan fictions that address it.

[lunabee34]

Oh no. I didn't take it that way at all. :)

And I think that you're making some legitimate points. There should have been more fleshing out of a lot of things and reasons given for divergence.