[ SECRET POST #2776 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2776 ⌋

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Comments

[lunabee34]

I think I'm okay with that because it's a call-back to the original canon for me. I mean, Spock puts his consciousness in McCoy and gets to be reborn! I think cheating death is kinda par for the course in the franchise. Except for Jadzia Dax, which I find to be a criminal exception.

/bitter bitter bitter Jadzia stan rage

[(Anonymous)]

That's cool. :)

See, I don't mind that they brought Kirk back (I can't really hold it against them considering the same thing was done with Spock). I just wish they had been more…subtle about it, you know? After Vulcan's destruction, there was a real potential that people would believe Kirk might actually kick the bucket and it would have tremendously increased the emotional resonance of that scene.

I get that they didn't want his revival to come across as an asspull, but I think they overshot and just made it way, way too obvious.

[lunabee34]

*nods nods*

I think most times when you've got a movie adaptation of an established source material, that it's hard to generate real "OMG hero in peril that might actually result in death!" moments because you know there's more material left to film. LOL

Like in the Iron Man movies. It doesnt' matter how much danger Tony is in, you know he's not going to die.

I think that moment with Kirk suffers for the same reason. You know they're not gonna kill Kirk for reals.

[(Anonymous)]

B-but the fans watching Khan didn't know that Spock would be brought back to life. It took like two years until the next movie for it to happen, and Spock didn't get brought back without extreme potential repercussions for everyone, especially McCoy.
One is far better storytelling than the other.

[lunabee34]

OMG, I remember my mom talking about how upset she was after Wrath of Khan, especially since Nimoy had done some flouncing and it was unclear whether or not he wanted to continue being associated with the franchise. It was definitely unclear whether or not he'd stay dead back in '82 and that must have been heart breaking. My first theater movie was Search for Spock, so I missed out on that angst.

However, I'd argue that there isn't a way to generate a real sense that Kirk might die in the movie. TOS is the Kirk, Spock, McCoy show and they're not going to kill one of them two movies in. Final movie of the franchise? Sure (*sob sob Data*) but not two movies into something they clearly aren't done with. I don't think they could have done anything that would make me think he was actually going to for reals yo die and stay dead in the movie. so that moment wasn't about whether or not he was going to die but how he and Spock reacting to *thinking* he was going to die/stay dead. Does that make sense?