[ SECRET POST #336 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

Last day to submit for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I picked them because they're all the protagonist's main love interest, across the board all healers (occasionally summoners or some such truck). While all of the characters may not exemplify the Yamato perfectly, they're all a type that have roots that hearken back to the Yamato.

Am I making sense?

[(Anonymous)]

You are making sense to me, secretmaker.

[agawa-jean.livejournal.com]

While agree with the fact that the Yamoto personality is disturbing, I honestly think what you're talking about is an entirely different stereotype, which, while it may have some of the same roots is not the same thing, hence why you're getting so many people up in your face about it.

I definitely understand rejecting the stereotype of the female love interest as the weak healer, who is often defined soley by her relation to the male character. However, at the same time, there are good characters who are both partially in that stereotype not because they do not have their own fully fleshed out storyline and character but because they happen to be both A)a love interest and B) a healer.

So, even if they are part of a larger stereotype that I can sort of shake my head at, and while I appreciated moving beyond that box, there's no reason that stereotype should invalidate strong female characters who fit within it. Honestly, some of my misunderstanding (before reading your comments) was centered around defining what is a "good" female character.

My initial impression was that disregarding in some cases valid and well developed characters for partially fitting in an overarching stereotype (even the weak healer/love interest) is part of fandom's constant misogyny for female characters that fall outside what they expect.

In my belief, female characters should be just that - well developed characters, like any other, and that's what they should be judged by. Judging female characters for displaying certain traits then (even if they are part of an overarching stereotype) when they are a perfectly valid character, seems to be a step backwards, much like criticizing modern housewives for not being what we consider a women "should" be now. In other words, it still seems to me a way of judging how women should be

That's just my take on what I've read, and please forgive me if it's a bit confusing! This week is exams week, and I'm operating on 3 hours of sleep. @__@!

And yeah, sorry 'bout the tl;dr

[agawa-jean.livejournal.com]

And yeah, I know you're defending your point to a lot of people right now, so...no worries, eh? I always find it an incredibly satisfying sign when people are thinking about the media they consume (whether I agree with them on it or not) so I just felt I had to get in on the discussion. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just generally find the topic very interesting, and I was pleasantly surprised to see the thought behind your secret.