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⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

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Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
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Um, quite a few of the characters you included in that secret do have backstories and personalities and are quite thoroughly fleshed out, and unless you completely skipped gigantic chunks of the game plot because you were too busy oggling the guys, there's no bloody way you could miss it.

See: Aeris, Garnet, Yuna, Elena, Rinoa

I don't necessarily like all of them, but I'm not about to say they were flat and lifeless and served no purpose other than to glorify their male love interests.

As for Aeris, Garnet, Yuna and Rinoa...

Their backstories exist almost purely to grant them awesome-super-powers. Aeris I would name as an exception because she spend a good chunk of her childhood in Shinra's labs, but Rinoa and Yuna? Garnet barely even remembers her childhood - effectively, she is Princess Garnet and Queen Brahne is her mother, as far as I'm concerned.

I seriously can't remember the details on Elena. I shouldn't have put her there, it's been years since I've played the game, but I already said that.

I did say this already, but let me try to condense it... If she's so awesome-special with her magic abilities, why the hell isn't she the main character? She basically becomes an accessory for the main character to tote around so her powers can be useful at plot-relevant points. Her status as the love interest diminishes her role and her influence on the story by BOATLOADS because the main character has to be the centre of everything.

There's ways to work against this, and this is why I wildly gesture at Kidd from Chrono Cross - she was great because she had her own agenda and didn't follow Serge around for the entire game. (I hear the girl from FFXII is pretty awesome, too, but I haven't gotten far enough to say).

(And while I'm talking about Aeris and Shinra's labs, hot DAMN she's way too well-adjusted for a lab rat who now lives in the slums. I always found that rather hard to swallow... but that's another can of worms.)

Or, like Lyon of Suikoden V, you can have a very good excuse to be following around the main character... she's his bodyguard.

If she's so awesome-special with her magic abilities, why the hell isn't she the main character?

Because, like most video games, RPGs are aimed at males so they make a male lead for the player to relate to?

But again you clearly aren't playing the same game as the rest of us. Yuna WAS the main character of FF10 for god's sake. The story was all about her and her journey to beat Sin. If anything, it was everyone else who was the "accessory" to her mission. Just because you didn't move her around the screen most of the time means she wasn't a main character? WHAT? Colette was in a similar situation, too. And I'm still boggling over WTF Tear and Garnet are doing there.

Everyone here is jumping at you because of your utter fail in using a term you clearly don't understand. Go to Wikipedia and read what a yamato nadeshiko actual is. Characters like Chi from Chobits, Belldandy from Ah My Goddess and Aoi Sakuraba from Ai Yori Aoshi are the yamato nadeshiko you're looking for.

Just write your slash and leave the reasons you write it out of it. I don't wanna know why anyone writes slash. I just wanna read it.

Edited 2007-12-08 06:58 (UTC)

I already said I was wrong to include the Yamato thing. I said it like three times. Let me say it again.

Of course the male is the main character because the genre is supposed to appeal to males. There is a WAY to have a love interest without her being an accessory, which is the entire point of me bringing up Kidd and Lyon.

I already explained that my reasons for including Tear were irrelevant and batshit. I'm getting sick of repeating myself.

Garnet, on the other hand, I think fits the type just fine. She's a traditionally feminine healer love interest, which was the entire point of the picture. I think she shares a lot of qualities with Aeris, Yuna, and the like.

Yuna is a major character, not the main character. Despite her importance to the world at large and her major part in the story... at the end of the day, the main focus is on Tidus. He is the main character. The story is about him and from his point of view, and the only reason anything really got solved in the end was because Sin was Tidus' father. Yuna's role in the story was to a) fall in love with Tidus and b) re-unite him with his daddy. Role in story =/= role in Spira as a whole.

For the record, I'm one of those maniacs who loved X-2.

I'm not going to go read everything you're saying elsewhere.

FF9 was a love story, first and foremost. So duh, Garnet was the love interest. But so was Freya to a lesser extent and Beatrix and Steiner. They just weren't the center stage. But were THEY nothing but love interests? Garnet was her own character. She faced her past, the death to two mothers and two homes, making costly mistakes and yet still had the courage to stand tall in the end. On the SIDE she was Zidane's love interest. But that wasn't her main role whatsoever. She was part of the deep and twisting story line that could not happen without her.

FF7 and FF10 were not love stories first and foremost. Their romantic relations with the male hero is there, but it is definietly NOT all they are and you have to be asleep the whole game to think that.

You do know games can have two main characters, right? A story told in one character's POV doesn't mean THAT character is the main character and no one else. It's a type of story telling. What about everyone else? They're just an "accessory" to the story because they also fill cliché roles?

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