ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-07 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

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Notes:

Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

Last day to submit for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if people in fandoms learned that people fap to whatever they want to fap to, and it doesn't matter if that isn't necessarily what YOU fap to but that's okay, we all still like the product the fandom sprouted from...we'd have a lot less stupid, horrid wank for people to point and laugh at.

I mean, seriously, if you took out the "shipping wars" in Harry Potter, the fandom would still be just a little crazy, but not batshit insane.

So, yes, to answer your question, Illidan and Malfurion are two brothers in love with the same woman. However, I'm a sucker for brotherly love, and I felt that their deep bond was broken by a set of tits. I'm not expecting the next novel to have them boffing like rabbits, I know for a fact it'll never be canon, but for crying out loud, it doesn't HAVE to be. It's my personal fap of choice, and whether or not you want to sail on the bonnie USS Stormragecest is your choice. I'm sailing that ship until Warcraft isn't fun anymore.

Not to say that I dislike Tyrande (well, game!Tyrande, Knaak is a pile of shit that needs to have his pen taken away, GOD she was such a Sue in those books), I actually respect her quite a bit. I love her and Malfurion's relationship, and the tragedy of Illidan being misunderstood at nearly every turn.

...

Oddly enough, it's almost precisely this sentiment that made me have to admit it in an anonymous secret rather than just ship the hell out of it with my own name. Though it would have been less of "gosh your slash pairing is the stupid" and more of "gosh you like slash you're stupid".

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] blinkidybah.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
For the record I don't think you're weird at all and I'd TOTES read Stormragecest >XD Don't let the haters get you down

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] sazzrah.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not hating... it's thinking something is morally wrong and expressing your opinion. Because shock horror--I am allowed to disagree. Freedom of speech and all that?

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] blinkidybah.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to start wank so all I'm going to say is fapping and kink? As long as you're not hurting anyone else (and these are fictional characters and thus cannot be hurt) is not an issue of morality.

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] sazzrah.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no problem with slash relationships or people liking unconventional pairings or even across series slash/het anything!

But I just think there is some lines that you just shouldn't cross. Sure people want their "creative freedom" and all that crap, but I just don't believe it's right in any way to ship incestuous relationships. I really don't know much about the Warcraft fandom, I was never in it so I know nothing of what is generally accepted etc... I'm just saying this is my own opinion of ALL fandoms where people happily ship incest like theres nothing wrong with it at all.

In my opinion there is something very wrong with it and I won't change my view on that for anyone's fapping freedom. It's not like I go around peoples fandoms telling them the evils of incest but when I saw this secret I wanted to express my view on the subject like everyone else.
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Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] sazzrah.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
No my friend, that's where my opinion differs from yours. There's a difference, don't come here with your attitude to turn this into a flame war please.

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Illidan write a book entitled "The Emerald Dream: Fact Or Carefully Planned Out Farce Perpetuated By My Brother?" Yeah. They've got a lot of UST to work out, heh.

Also, I think there's two major points the commentor here is missing:

1) People can love more than one person in their lives. Especially if they're immortal. People can have sex with more than one person in their lives. Being in love with/having sex with one person does not disqualify a fictional character from ever doing the horizontal tango with anyone else again.

2) People can have sex for a lot of reasons which don't always involve pure, eternal, heterosexual love. I can see Illidan and Malfs sharing some stressed-out, emotionally-hurt-and-betrayed comfortsex. And that would be hot.

Re: Y'know, I wasn't going to reply to any of these, but...

[identity profile] sazzrah.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well first, good job on deleting your original comment.
Second, I wasn't missing anything, I'm not a child who doesn't understand that love doesn't quite turn out like Disney movies. *rolls eyes*

As to your points...

1. I knew this already and have no reason to address this, it has no baring on what I said nor the original secret.

2. See above.

My only issue is that I don't feel it's right to want siblings or relatives (fictional or otherwise-- but especially otherwise >.>) to have sexual relationships. It's not right in my eyes, and how people aren't slightly off putted by the thought of it I don't really know. Would you find it sexy if someone said "I love imagining you having sex with your brother!"

Say what you want about me but I'm not a bad or evil person, no matter how much people feel the need to say "I fail" or whatever witty insult they can come up with. It's just how I feel about it personally.

Put the pitchforks away people!