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⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

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Okay... Well, have fun with that one. I'm not going to argue with generalizations.

Blanketing female characters I love under the "they aren't good enough for the men" sucks, but obviously we're going to get blue in the face arguing opinion here.

Because you're not arguing 'role in the story' even though you claim you are, or you would have included Millenia without a DOUBT, because her role in the story is, by definition, no different from Elenas.

You simply don't care for the soft spoken woman, which is fine.

Also, arguing about pairing ages is TL;DR. You should KNOW that age isn't really an object in fandom or loli and shota wouldn't exist.

I was assuming that we were talking about the canon. In any videogame, can you ever thing of a cutesy girl who gets together with the protagonist at the end? I really can't think of a single RPG where they do. As soon as the girl who will be the protagonist's love interest is introduced, you know that it's going to be her that gets together with the guy. Even if there's a love triangle, it's obvious who's going to lose (...FFVII was an exception because Aeris threw a wrench in the gears by dying.)

As for Millenia - her personality is too aggressive and brash to click with my image of the typical love interest. That's why I didn't include her. Also, she isn't a white mage.

When the hell did I ever say "they aren't good enough for the men"? If anything, I think they're too good. People keep defending these women by saying that they're strong, capable women - and yes, they are! I'm not arguing that at all! They are very, very, strong, capable women! And you know what? I can't identify with this uber-feminine, kind, caring bastion of emotional strength.

I can't understand Aeris because she lives as a lab rat, ends up in the slums, has her mother die, her boyfriend die, predicts her own death and walks straight towards it for the good of the Planet and is fine the entire time. She's so far and above anything I'll ever experience that I will never understand her. If she has depth this is why I can't see it.

Cloud, on the other hand? For most of the game he's a total wreck! I can understand Cloud a hell of a lot more than I can understand Aeris.

What I've been trying to define about these characters is that from Rosa to Yuna on up, I can't identify with a single one of them. Whatever they are, they are so completely unlike me that I am completely incapable of understanding, sympathizing, or liking them at all.

If you want me to be flat honest I'm the OP of 31 as well. The reason I get so irritated about the whole damn thing is that I'm sick of seeing sweet, feminine and emotionally strong (not that Shirley is what I'd call strong... that was just kind of a 'last straw' game for me) women always get the guy. I get enough of that shit in RL without having it shoved in my face in fiction that the only kind of woman that's desirable is that kind that I can never be.

I spent a bajillion posts trying to link together characters in a way that wouldn't make sense to anybody else because they're not me. I find RPG love interests to be of a similar type, but nobody seems to agree with me on that and it still drives me insane.

Anyway, sorry about the huge tl;dr, but I had twenty-four hours to sit on it and I want to try to cushion the effects of my initial knee-jerk reaction to the wank.

to be honest I don't get the part about RL. I don't know anyone like that in real life which is why I personally dislike the more extreme examples of the healer girl cliche- they're so unrealistic it's impossible to relate to them. I do feel like they're a collection of ideal feminine attributes put together but in the end you get something soulless and empty, not a "real" person you can love or hate.

oh and I agree with the other people- some of the girls you picked are waaay off!

Ah, but when I tried to draw similarities between the characters and say, "Look, these characters are similar" I got bombarded from every direction. The only thing that can't be argued with is something that is purely a matter of personal opinion.

Elena and Tear, for reasons which I really don't want to go over again, yes. The others? I'll stand by my statement.

.... Wow. You are a very shallow person. That might be the real reason you can't get a boy friend.

Thanks so much, anon. I'm happy to know that a random stranger on the internet is making value judgements about me based on little to no information after having never met me in the first place. It really makes me feel good about the human race.

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