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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-12 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2779 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2779 ⌋

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Re: Realest of real talk

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Happy talk is much more socially acceptable than angry talk. So where happy talk might be equally real in the 'reality' sense of the word, it's not real in the "Shit is getting real" sense of the word, which is all about making the decision to just ignore social conventions and have out with it.

Re: Realest of real talk

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's kinda weird to assume that once you don't have to act happy to be socially acceptable, everyone is bitter and jaded. "Shit is getting real," too. Was it not real before? Is the rest of it less important? Who decided at what point shit became real vs. not real?

Re: Realest of real talk

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
No. It wasn't real before. It was based on the polite lies that we tell in everyday society to keep things going. In this case, OP was not being real - they had all these thoughts about relationships but they kept them to themselves because they knew it was socially unpalatable. Now they're 'getting real' and unburdening themselves of their true feelings, instead of the mask they wear socially.

It doesn't mean that everyone in the world is bitter and jaded. But there are times when people are bitter or jaded or angry or upset and can't act that way for social reasons. People who are happy don't have to get real, they're real all the time (insofar as they're happy, obviously people are complex and no one's happy all the time, but still). There's social codes of conduct that determine how we act and what we do, even when it's not our true feelings. And that's what shit getting real means. I don't think it's an especially complicated concept.

Re: Realest of real talk

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I think you'd agree with me that if I prefaced a remark like "Time for some real talk..." then continued with "...I really love Frozen! My day was awesome. I love my puppy." you'd eye me strangely because that's not what "real talk" means, no matter how real that is to me.

When you separate talk into "real talk" and "other" talk, you're creating a line that didn't exist. The same way as "real women" and "real problems" and "real ____," aren't you? It invalidates other talk by deeming it not real. Unless, of course, you think the rest isn't, and everyone is telling polite lies all the time.

Re: Realest of real talk

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
real talk now. what I really think about real talk is that it's really a way for people who know deep down inside that they're being real whiny and have unpopular opinions to validate themselves. in any ordinary setting it'd just be whining, but when prefaced by 'real talk' it's fine because, you know, then it's REAL about REAL THINGS