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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-13 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2780 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2780 ⌋

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Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-08-14 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like you guys have taken this in a completely weird and absurd direction.

I like reading porn that involves women because I know what it feels like to be a woman having sex, so it's hotter to me than porn that doesn't involve women. I'm not projecting my desire for the male character; half of the time, I personally wouldn't want to be with the male character. On top of that, I also go for femslash, so there's often not even a male character to desire. It's just easier for me to relate to female sexual pleasure than male sexual pleasure, and so it turns me on more.

That's, honestly, what most people are talking about. You're taking a very, very extreme view, and it kinda strikes me as disingenuous, because relating to a character is nowhere near comparable to stripping a character of her identity.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-08-14 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about porn. Like I said, I don't see anything wrong with preferring het fiction or relating to it more (I ship lots of het ships myself).

No, my post was more about how some shippers get on slashers' case for "ignoring" or "erasing" female characters and then act as though they are treating female characters right and respectfully.

And I think that's bull considering the number of het fics that are just using the female character as a proxy to get into a male character's pants.

That's not to say it's ALL het fic mind you or that slashers don't bash female characters (because some do).

But I think the contention that het inherently treats female characters better than slash needs to die. Because when I see those self-insert fics, I don't think it's respectful at all. In fact, in some ways, I think it's worse than just ignoring the female character (the way slashers do) because the author s destroying her personality to use her as a conduit.

Note that this isn't ALL het fics -- I'm specifically talking about self-insert fics and why their popularity means I have a problem with people who contend that slash inherently treats women worse. I think it's really a case by case basis.