[ SECRET POST #2783 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2783 ⌋

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Comments

[klutzygirl]

Because John Garrett abused Ward until the day he died. He never stopped being abused and he's suffering from a pretty clear case of Stockholm Syndrome.

And yeah, he needs to pay for his crimes with jail time since the abuse doesn't excuse his actions but he also needs a shitload of therapy. And his psychopathic abuser is why he's a murderer. He needs a ton of help and to apologize once he starts getting better.

[ariakas]

Sure, I could see him getting therapy in prison and eventually overcoming his past trauma. That would be realistic, and believable.

Him getting within 100 miles of a SHIELD facility ever again, let alone returning to active duty is facepalm-through-forehead-tier unbelievably, irredeemably stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I'm thinking it's going to be a plot about using Ward to find HYDRA bases and personnel while keeping him on a short leash. At least I REALLY HOPE SO.

[diet_poison]

I could buy that. I don't think Ward would be ok with it at all though and it would be extremely dangerous, so I'm not sure there's a good way to pull it off.

[diet_poison]

ia.

it would be great for Ward as a person if he learned to be a good person and do good outside of SHIELD and away from the people he hurt, but he should never ever be considered a part of SHIELD again, and if he thinks he's entitled to that at any point, he isn't really redeemed nor does he really, truly regret what happened and understand the ramifications. If it actually sinks in what happened, he should actively try to stay away from SHIELD.

I wouldn't mind a situation where he just went to jail and I could headcanon all of that for his future, but since he's coming back as a main cast member, I kinda think it's not going to look anything like that at all...

[herpymcderp]

Stockholm syndrome

I see you using that term, but I don't think you know what it means. You're correct in assuming there might be some kind of mental health issue at play, but it's not Stockholm syndrome. The difference between a syndrome and a disorder is that a syndrome is a temporary disturbance in thought or behaviour that almost always spontaneously resolves when the psychological trigger is no longer present. With a disorder, some amount of permanency is assumed.

I don't even watch this show, but you can't have Stockholm syndrome fifteen years after an event. PTSD, certainly, but you're just wrong about your assumptions here.

[klutzygirl]

I know what it means and abuse survivors (and some people who even work in the mental health field) who watch the show see the Stockholm Syndrome.

[herpymcderp]

I also happen to work in the mental health field. Unless you're actually talking with people who are psychologists with specialties in trauma-related disorders, I'm going to go ahead and tell you that they're wrong.

The longest reported case of Stockholm syndrome was something like three months after the individual was removed from the situation that triggered it. That is the upper end of the scale, so to speak.

Like I said, PTSD is usually a given in those situations where there's a history of abuse, but for Stockholm syndrome the general time frame until resolution is days to weeks after an event. It is actually definitional; the shorter expected duration is why we call it a syndrome instead of a disorder.

[(Anonymous)]

I love you and I love this reply.

[klutzygirl]

I wouldn't be surprised if he does develop or is suffering from PTSD, tbh. Like the character is suffering from clear psychological problems that are hard to miss.

He literally can't function without orders from his abuser (as seen here)

There's a scene (which is in a few of the gifsets below) in which the abuser beats the shit out of him "for the cover". Based on the fact that neither one batted an eye, it wasn't the first time.

And all of this is on top of fifteen years of prior abuse by his older brother and parents.

Not to mention that his behavior is raising some red flags for sexual abuse but that isn't confirmed.

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[herpymcderp]

Well that's a lot of information you have there, but all I'm seeing is a bunch of bad writers misrepresenting mental illness. It isn't the first time and I doubt it will be the last.

They might clearly be trying to portray Stockholm syndrome, but this still isn't it. As it turns out, people really aren't that easy to "brainwash" unless they're fairly constantly kept on cocktails of sedative hypnotics and psychedelics. It just doesn't happen, even with chronic abusive situations.

[klutzygirl]

It's been really nice and interesting to hear your insight, even from someone who hasn't watched the show because at least you aren't just dismissive of it. Thanks for all the info because it is helpful and informative.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this. Yeah.