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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-20 06:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2787 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2787 ⌋

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-21 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, but the comment, to me, seemed phrased in a way to suggest that Fenris was ever a threat to Anders' freedom, and that's why Anders was happy. Anders was happy because he hated Fenris, no other reason, same as Fenris would be.
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[personal profile] threeeyedsloth 2014-08-21 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's also more hypocritical on Anders' part, because Anders' expressly feels like mages are slaves, which is wrong. That they suffer in their current conditions. So him turning a slave over to his master is hypocrisy of the highest order.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-21 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree - Fenris is a hypocrite, but he never pretended to have a higher moral ground. He hates mages and elven slavery for personal reasons, not ethical ones. Anders makes passionate ethical arguments for freedom for all...except this one guy, this guy can go to hell.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-21 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's not even a "this one guy" thing. Fenris is the only one whose enslavement he cheers on, but he expresses indifference towards elven slavery in general, and at one point gets pissy because the elves in the alienage (who are frequent prey for the slaving groups in the game even if we ignore the appalling conditions they're forced to live in) aren't racing to jump on his own personal bandwagon.

If you're a mage and you agree with his ethical position, Anders cares about your freedom. If you're anything but a mage, he gives zero fucks.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-21 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
If you're a mage and you agree with his ethical position, Anders cares about your freedom. If you're anything but a mage, he gives zero fucks.

Even if you are a mage and you disagree with his position, he doesn't care - for example, Merrill, and any other blood mage, as if he, the willing abomination, has any ground to stand on whatsoever. I feel bad for Anders because he's not the only being at the wheel of his body and mind anymore, but good lord.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-21 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree both with you and the above anon. Anything but a mage he gives zero fucks? This is a guy who runs a free clinic for refugees, remember?
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-21 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I have a theory that Anders doesn't start the game as cruel as he ends it, the guy who set up the free clinic in Act 1 is different from the guy who murders an innocent in Act 2 and still more different from the guy who starts a massacre in Act 3, as Vengeance gains more and more influence. Anders doesn't begin by not giving zero fucks about anyone who doesn't toe his personal line, he progresses to it. (This is also a possible non-mechanic explanation for why he does something so out of character as favoring Fenris being sold - it's a vengeful response that came from a specific source.)