[ SECRET POST #2787 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2787 ⌋

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Comments

[saku]

i think the reason anders approves of giving fenris back to danarius is because he is really put off by fenris' understandable hatred of mages. anders makes it pretty clear through his thoughts and actions that violence or other aggression targeting mage haters is justified. so i think anders makes it a lot more personal than just a fundamental lack of agreement on one thing, even if that was the initial cause of their rivalry.

i think fenris inherently being wary of mages is a part of who he is, is a part of his past and his mentality in general as a result of his situation, so i would argue that anders does have a reason to hate fenris for who and what he is.

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree, I don't think Anders really ever suggests that targeting "mage haters" is justified. If you're referring to him blowing up the chantry, he did that because he believed that it was the best catalyst for mages to fight for their freedom, rather than maintain the old status quo. I don't think he ever thought of it was "killing mage haters" - maybe killing those who actively "enslave" mages, he'd agree with, but I don't remember a single thing from the game that suggests he was fine with killing people who were suspicious of magic.

I honestly feel that the only reason Anders "approves" of giving Fenris to Danarius was for game mechanic reasons, so that every action, good or evil, Hawke takes, some Companions will like it and some won't. I didn't think it was really in character. But the only in game explanation, I think, was just that he hated Fenris that much. Fenris is probably an easy guy to hate for his sullen and biting personality, especially to the mage companions, after all. His anti-mage stance definitely had a lot to do with it, but I wouldn't really say that's an identity that Anders would violently target or something.

[saku]

i wasnt referring to any instance specifically, just his reactions to mage hate throughout the game (sans the chantry explosion thing since that was a deeper event and i dont necessarily think it was a "bad" one). there are a lot of dialogue options that lead solely to approval or indifference for all companions, or disapproval/indifference, so im not sure that was the reasoning behind the writers' choice.

i do think it was out of character for anders though, like i said - so much so that i was left baffled when i learned he approves of the choice.

people being suspicious or wary of magic isnt really the issue. i think anybody who supported templar activities as a result of suspicions re: magic is what anders is really hostile towards, and fenris was not shy about making it clear that he thought mages belonged in circles where they could be closely monitored. anders probably saw this mentality (rightfully) as a threat. not enough to ruin fenris himself, but enough that, when seeing an opportunity being taken that would rid himself of fenris - even in a really awful way - he was all for it.