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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-22 07:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2789 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2789 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. Sounds like it's meant for people who like maledom, and unfortunately it seems that some people assume ALL straight women are into maledom, and therefore they can rec maledom porn/erotica without any warning. Annoying. I can't read erotica (other than fanfic) because I don't want to wade through a sea of maledom full of skeevy tropes like this.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, rather worse, it sounds like it's meant for people who like maledom AND ASSUME THAT MEANS RAPEY AND CREEPY AS HELL. So... yeah, same market segment as 50SoG.
philstar22: (Spike/Dru)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-08-23 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there is maledom erotica where the relationship is actually healthy, the woman has a personality and agency and just happens to be submissive, and where the man isn't a creepy, abusive stalker.

Frankly, I'll take anything if the relationship portrayed is healthy. I just like BDSM dynamics regardless of who is in charge, even if my preference is for femdom and I wish there was a lot more of it. But there is so much bad erotica out there that I'm mostly happy for stuff that is good and where the relationship is actually healthy and a realistic BDSM relationship.

Another thing that I've found is that in some ways BDSM maledom erotica is often better than regular erotica. Because regular erotica most of the time is maldom but without the constraints of BDSM like safewords and safe, sane, consensual. The man is just in charge without it every being decided or without her getting a say or any sort of negotiation taking place.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-08-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'll even take the unhealthy stuff since it hits some of my kinks, but it creeps me out when it's treated as an ideal that would be wonderful in reality rather than just a fantasy that can be hot to think about.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that there was no maledom without the skeevy problematic tropes. Sorry if it came off that way.

It does bug me that maledom is SO mainstream that I feel like my choices are pretty much milder (maybe?) non-consensual maledom or more extreme consensual maledom. :/
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-08-23 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I feel the same way. There are a few femdom books out there, but not many. The one that I really like I end up reading a lot. And then reading M/M BDSM erotica because then at least there is a male in the submissive role.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-08-23 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
got any femdom book recs? I don't read much erotica, but I'm curious.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-23 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly this, I don't even like BDSM in general, yet a few of my favorite fics have had it, and I loved it because there was emphasis on consent and both parties being enthusiastic participants, the dominance wasn't something being inflicted on one person by the other.

The man is just in charge without it every being decided or without her getting a say or any sort of negotiation taking place.

I hear horror stories about people claiming that this is how "real" BDSM should be, that precautions and discussion take all the "passion" out of a scene. Makes my skin crawl.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-08-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Or how some people think the whole "asking for consent and receiving an enthusiastic yes" is a mood killer. What kind of mood did you have going on?
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-23 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot tell you have many times I've seen that and my eyes just cross. What kills me is the fucked up priorities, what's more important, the mood or not accidentally hurting someone? It's a mood-killer to be a badass biker with a dorky helmet*, too, but we all recognize the importance of being safe over pretending you're in a sketchy romance novel.

*A better metaphor would be wearing a condom, but we all know how people use the "mood-killer" excuse to avoid doing that, too.
Edited 2014-08-23 02:25 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
For a novel? Definitely the mood.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-08-23 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
I meant what people claim is a mood-killer in real life, not novels. Or at least that was I was driving at with my "horror stories about people claiming that this is how real BDSM should be" remark, it might have come off like I was talking about fiction, but I meant real BDSM scenes.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, sorry then.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe the friend thought she might like this book better than Fifty Shades and that's why she rec'd it? Also, it seems a little ridiculous to expect a random friend to 'warn' for tropes they might not even recognize as tropes, much less skeevy tropes.



cassandraoftroy: Callisto from Xena, looking annoyed (callisto irritated)

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-08-23 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
unfortunately it seems that some people assume ALL straight women are into maledom

I really, really hate this assumption, even when the maledom fiction in question doesn't have inadvertently-creepy tropes aplenty. I hate it from a feminist perspective (assuming that all women-who-are-sexually-interested-in-men have exclusively submissive fantasies, rather than accepting that this demographic has a diverse array of sexual-dynamic preferences, is gender-essentialist), and because it makes it much harder for me to find any erotica that isn't an active turn-off for me.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
DA

offtopic but yay, Callisto! ♥♥♥
cassandraoftroy: Callisto from Xena, shooting fire from her fingertips (callisto)

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-08-23 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
:D I have a great deal of unabashed love for Callisto.
Edited 2014-08-23 01:56 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
She was easily my favorite character on that show. Don't get me wrong I love Xena and Gabrielle, but Callisto was so fucking hammy and gloriously evil that she really stole the show during her episodes.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, femdom all the way. Maledom is a snooze.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
uh...what is maledom? a kingdom of males? *confused*

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Male Domination.