[ SECRET POST #2789 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2789 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Thrilling Adventure Hour, Beyond Belief]


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10. [WARNING for abuse, (possibly?) rape]














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Comments

[fscom]

10. [WARNING for abuse, (possibly?) rape]
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[(Anonymous)]

Ugh. Sounds like it's meant for people who like maledom, and unfortunately it seems that some people assume ALL straight women are into maledom, and therefore they can rec maledom porn/erotica without any warning. Annoying. I can't read erotica (other than fanfic) because I don't want to wade through a sea of maledom full of skeevy tropes like this.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, rather worse, it sounds like it's meant for people who like maledom AND ASSUME THAT MEANS RAPEY AND CREEPY AS HELL. So... yeah, same market segment as 50SoG.

[philstar22]

Well, there is maledom erotica where the relationship is actually healthy, the woman has a personality and agency and just happens to be submissive, and where the man isn't a creepy, abusive stalker.

Frankly, I'll take anything if the relationship portrayed is healthy. I just like BDSM dynamics regardless of who is in charge, even if my preference is for femdom and I wish there was a lot more of it. But there is so much bad erotica out there that I'm mostly happy for stuff that is good and where the relationship is actually healthy and a realistic BDSM relationship.

Another thing that I've found is that in some ways BDSM maledom erotica is often better than regular erotica. Because regular erotica most of the time is maldom but without the constraints of BDSM like safewords and safe, sane, consensual. The man is just in charge without it every being decided or without her getting a say or any sort of negotiation taking place.

[sarillia]

I'll even take the unhealthy stuff since it hits some of my kinks, but it creeps me out when it's treated as an ideal that would be wonderful in reality rather than just a fantasy that can be hot to think about.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that there was no maledom without the skeevy problematic tropes. Sorry if it came off that way.

It does bug me that maledom is SO mainstream that I feel like my choices are pretty much milder (maybe?) non-consensual maledom or more extreme consensual maledom. :/

[darkmanifest]

Exactly this, I don't even like BDSM in general, yet a few of my favorite fics have had it, and I loved it because there was emphasis on consent and both parties being enthusiastic participants, the dominance wasn't something being inflicted on one person by the other.

The man is just in charge without it every being decided or without her getting a say or any sort of negotiation taking place.

I hear horror stories about people claiming that this is how "real" BDSM should be, that precautions and discussion take all the "passion" out of a scene. Makes my skin crawl.

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe the friend thought she might like this book better than Fifty Shades and that's why she rec'd it? Also, it seems a little ridiculous to expect a random friend to 'warn' for tropes they might not even recognize as tropes, much less skeevy tropes.

[cassandraoftroy]

unfortunately it seems that some people assume ALL straight women are into maledom

I really, really hate this assumption, even when the maledom fiction in question doesn't have inadvertently-creepy tropes aplenty. I hate it from a feminist perspective (assuming that all women-who-are-sexually-interested-in-men have exclusively submissive fantasies, rather than accepting that this demographic has a diverse array of sexual-dynamic preferences, is gender-essentialist), and because it makes it much harder for me to find any erotica that isn't an active turn-off for me.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

offtopic but yay, Callisto! ♥♥♥

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, femdom all the way. Maledom is a snooze.

[(Anonymous)]

uh...what is maledom? a kingdom of males? *confused*

[(Anonymous)]

Male Domination.

[quirkytizzy]

I think the people who buy those sorts of things are easily shocked. Nothing wrong with liking kink, even the domineering kind like that. But I think the reason so many women are captivated is because they've never read anything more titillating than a Harlequin romance novel, so this is a racey thrill from the "heaving bosoms" and "straining manhoods" they are used to.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know about that. I think the only thing different between the book the OP describes and the kinds of historical bodice rippers I grew up reading is language, and that it's slightly more overt as far as intentions and protestations. But the examples OP cited sound exactly the kinds of things found in the books I snuck into my room under my parents' noses, just the words used, the language, was purpled up to "heaving bosoms" and "straining manhoods".

They're a big reason I have the kinks I have but at the same time, I think I found them so appealing and on-turning was because those kinks were already inside me and the books just gave them form. Or something.

And yet I managed not to find myself in abusive relationships and see them as ideal. Funny about that.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you the anon that gets wet over 50 Shades of Grey and ardently defends that shit whenever it's brought up here?

[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak for the first two examples you gave but that last one? Kind of a turn on for some of us. I am in no way defending the shitastic Fifty Shades series, but maybe we're just nitpicking other people's turn-ons a little too specifically at this point?

Just a thought.

[(Anonymous)]

They don't find it romantic. They find it HOT. There's a difference.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

There's a significant difference between the two words, and yes, IAWTC.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

It becomes romantic when a love moment comes into play, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

That's kinda how I felt when a friend suggested I read Anne Rice's "Beauty" trilogy since I like bdsm. I got about a chapter in and was so skeeved out by the abusive non-con nature of it I couldn't read any further, and since then I've heard plenty of people rave about how awesome that series was and just can't understand. Maybe my kink is more Sane/Safe/Consensual then wild bondage porn :)

[cassandraoftroy]

I pushed my way through that whole trilogy, just so I could say I read them. It was so very not my kink. I think I spent most of those books with a permanent D: face. I definitely kink on SSC, and maledom/femsub is so not my thing. Learning about pony play was a fascinating experience, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, agreed! It started out with an interesting (imo) premise, so I had high hopes - but then as I kept reading, I became more D: (and I thought it would get better/more consensual, but......D:)

[deird1]

Skeevy relationship, sure. But still sounds healthier than Fifty Shades.

[toshi_hakari]

I got recommended "The Boss" by Abigail Barnette a while ago and while it's also maledom, the male lead isn't skeevy or a stalker and the female main character is self-confident and sexually experienced. Also, the male lead makes sure that the female lead knows and uses safe words and takes time discussing them with her in detail because he himself has had a bad experience in the past as a sub and doesn't want it to happen to her.

But yeah, all the ones that are carbon copies of 50 Shades are usually trash.