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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-23 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

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I feel like I might be the type of fan that OP is talking about so I'll try to explain...

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I can be like this. I know it's wrong but it's often how I react to some female characters.

Let's take the character of Uhura from the newest Star Trek for instance. I just couldn't identify with her and found her Sue-ish even though I know she's not. But it just came across to me that way. Reasons being:

-She's popular (opening scene with friends at the bar)
-Gets hit on by/rejects hot guy and is dating other hot guy
-Smartest in her class and more competent than the current Enterprise bridge officer
-No other character dislikes her (this is why I can't see Kirk as a Stu even if he fits the definition better technically -- he just gets his face beat in too much) -- heck, even when she insults Kirk by calling him a hick who only has sex with farm animals, it doesn't matter at all
-Never makes a mistake, even accidentally

In the first film, everyone fucked up to some extent. Kirk got his ass handed to him constantly. Spock fucked up and tried to choke the shit out of Kirk while being wrong about their course of action. McCoy accidentally triggered an allergic reaction in Kirk. Sulu forgot the "parking brake." Chekov lost Spock's mom (accidentally). Scotty accidentally sent them to the wrong part of the ship.

Uhura, meanwhile, never had a moment like that. The closest we get is in the sequel where the Klingons don't listen to her. But even that isn't really due to a mistake or fault on her part (even accidental). She didn't actually DO anything or make a choice that led to the negative outcome.

She just seems to have been written as the perfect girlfriend and communications officer -- talented, intelligent, beautiful, desired, never fucks up, never disliked by other crew members, popular.

And I'm nothing like that. So I imagine the reaction is the result of insecurity in some cases.
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Re: I feel like I might be the type of fan that OP is talking about so I'll try to explain...

[personal profile] nan 2014-08-23 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, in the second movie she picked the WORST TIME to talk about her and Spock's relationship. I dunno if the audience was suppose to think badly of her for her timing but everyone that I've talked to did.

Re: I feel like I might be the type of fan that OP is talking about so I'll try to explain...

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
But there weren't any negative consequences for that. And…well…the film treats her as being completely in the right. Kirk even says (after asking to be left out of the conversation) that Uhura was right -- "she is right."

She and Spock completely make up after it too. Sealed with a kiss.

People might have had a negative impression of her, but I never got the feeling that the film itself was using that scene to display flaws. It was meant to reaffirm the Spock and Uhura relationship.

Re: I feel like I might be the type of fan that OP is talking about so I'll try to explain...

(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
This is very true.