[ SECRET POST #2790 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: THANK YOU OP

[(Anonymous)]

Instead of making a list of traits that Mary Sues have but OTHER characters can have as well, emphasis should be put on the things that make them Sues which is favoritism and preferential treatment by the narrative itself.

Yes, this, exactly. Sometimes people think because a character herself is well-written and flawed, that means she can't be a Sue, but no no no, when the story is built around her like she shits gold no matter what the actually does, that's a Sue.

Re: THANK YOU OP

[jaybie_jarrett]

Agreed.

It's common for some people to give their characters flaws just to say they have them but they're never treated in story as such. If they count as flaws they HAVE to effect them in story, they have to have negative repercussions for the character. If they don't , they're not flaws.

Also- The problem with going by traits is that CONTEXT changes everything.

Re: THANK YOU OP

[meishuu]

Giving them flaws just in name... like Bella Swan and Anastasia Steele? Yeah, that's pretty much what usually happens. To be honest, I'd rather read about a "perfect" character that acknowledges its perfection than characters like those two.

Re: THANK YOU OP

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, I'd rather read about a "perfect" character that acknowledges its perfection than characters like those two

Weirdly, that's why Barbie: Life in the Dreamhouse works for me. Barbie is portrayed as and is acknowledged as being a pretty much perfect and extremely talented person (well, doll), but she's still an interesting character to me and I find her very likable. Of course, the fact that the show is an affectionate parody and very self aware also helps a lot