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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-23 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I've stopped paying attention to people calling "Mary Sue" on canon characters anymore. Part of the reason was that I once knew someone in a fandom who started calling *all* the female characters that because she was uncomfortable with the idea of anyone but the men boinking off-screen. (It was a no-kissing-no-hugging kind of series centered on violence, action and philosophy, but my once-friend did have her fantasies and delusions). And part of the reason is just... what I see in genreal as a kind of media-induced sexism in fandom. It seems to me that any *female* character that proves to be even mildly *interesting* has *someone, somewhere* accusing her of being a "Sue" because she is interesting. She either is "too nurturing" or she's "too baddass" and no matter what she does, she's "trying too hard" while male characters get away with the same things and more.

I don't know the character in the middle of the left-hand column, but Katara... well, I considered all of the characters ATLA to be well-rounded and realistic, at least as far as people who can bend elements can be considered "real." I recall Katara having her bratty moments. I think Aang possibly had more "suish" traits, but wound up coming across as a charming kid all the same. And Katniss... If the "Mary Sue" type is a wish-fulfillment character, count me out. By the middle of the Hunger Games series, she's clearly losing her mind and is a total basket-case by the end of Mockingjay. She also has enough "What the Hell, Hero?" moments to keep her well out of Suedom for me.

When "Mary Sue" is merely "codename for female character I don't like" - it becomes a meaningless term.

That said, I enjoy doing play-by-post roleplays with characters I'm happy to call "Mary Sues" because they aren't serious writing or fanfic characters, but are just ephemeral roleplay-fun. So, on one level, I don't even have a problem with the existence of the character-type. In certain contexts, they can be fun.