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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-24 03:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2791 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2791 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #399.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: OP

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-08-24 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Is a woman with "a will of iron" really "a feminine woman"? I mean... it kind of sounds like another version of the shooting and punching girl, not a 180.
ginainthekingsroad: a scan of a Victorian fashion plate; a dark haired woman with glasses (me?) (Lady with Glasses)

Re: OP

[personal profile] ginainthekingsroad 2014-08-24 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think "iron will" and "feminine" are mutually exclusive at all. I think an "iron will" means having a ton of determination and focus on achieving their goal (perhaps to the exclusion of others). It has nothing to do with physical strength, it's an inward quality. And femininity is about presentation; in the ASOIAF universe, about how best to get by in a strongly patriarchal society by applying that femininity.

That combo definitely applies to Sansa, where it is played sympathetically with regards to her hostage/pawn status; but it can also describe Cersei, where it is being used as a tragic flaw.

I actually think I really like that combination, as the first character that jumped to mind with regards to that wasn't from ASOIAF at all, but Brenda Johnson from The Closer.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: OP

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-08-24 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Point taken :) I think the secret+OP's subsequent explanations are worded in a way that suggests that having a will of iron is in itself a feminine quality, though, which is a bit ???