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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-26 08:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2793 ]


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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-27 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I will take this opportunity to let you all know how much I love Dawn. She is one of the few teenagers in the television shows I've watched in my lifetime who has actually behaved like a real teenager. As much as I loved Dawson's Creek, and oh lordy lordy lordy did I, but no teenager ever talked like that or lived independently like that. Even the Scoobies were pushing the boundaries of teenager. Dawn is refreshing and lovely. I will smish her and call her George.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-08-27 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I will take this opportunity to let you all know how much I love Dawn.

*high fives*
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-08-27 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
My love for Dawn knowns no bounds. I think a lot of the fans that hated her, hated how much of themselves they saw in her.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-27 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I can buy that as an explanation.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think the age a lot of first-run watchers were when she was introduced hindered the acceptance of her character. I'd watched since I was around 13. By the time Dawn showed up I was 18 and while I was coming out of that crazy emotional teenage phase that she perfectly encapsulates, I wasn't old enough to have any mature hindsight. Like, leaning back in my rocker, puffing a pipe reminiscing on how I used to be like little Dawn Summers. It was more like 'OHMIGOD SHE IS ANNOYING I WAS NEVER THAT BAD' even if I really. really. was.

I think.. also on the subject of un-teenager like teenagers... Buffy and the gang themselves. They were all around Dawn's age when the show began. And they were stylish, and witty, and mature. At least compared to Dawn, who comes off as a shrieky ten year old in comparison. It's a bit of an inconsistency in the Whedonverse there. WONDERFUL and ACCURATE teenage sister. But he missed the mark on all the teenagers he started the show with. You know?
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-27 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahahhahahahha. I think both the points you make are good ones. I didn't start watching until season six when I was 22. I'd already been in grad school a year, and I was pregnant with my older daughter, I think.

And I completely agree with you that Dawn is jarring because the Scoobs are not written as teenagers; she sticks out and seems more annoying than she should because she's been set adrift in a sea of sophistication and actors playing teens who are waaaaay older than the kiddos they're playing. LOL

[identity profile] ivymutant.livejournal.com 2014-08-27 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
I heard Dawn was going to be a lot younger (so 9-12 sort of age), but then Whedon met Michelle and liked her so much he cast her as Dawn. She was a teenager at the time so they had to age the character up but it was too late to rewrite the first couple of scripts for the season so Dawn ends up coming off a lot younger than she looks. They apparently modified this with the new scripts they wrote after she was cast.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-08-27 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I liked Dawn, too. She was annoying a hell, but she was *real*. And in the end, she was pretty awesome.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-27 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
She really was. And I have loved what fanfic has done with her and what comes next for her after the series ends.
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[personal profile] kathkin 2014-08-27 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*highfives* See, I started watching Buffy for the first time when season 5 was airing, and only because my older sister watched it. Oh boy howdy did I identify with Dawn. xD
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-28 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Heee. And may I commend you on your use of Boy Howdy. I feel that is a phrase that should be used more often.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-08-27 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
YESSSS. Dawn is wonderful and I love her to death and I will defend her forever.

Friday Night Lights' Julie Taylor is another character who seems like a very realistic teenager to me but gets a lot of hate.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-28 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I never watched that show but I heard good things about it; maybe it should go on a to-watch list?
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-08-28 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Honestly Friday Night Lights is one of the greatest TV shows out there. I mean it isn't perfect but it is SO good. Give it a chance and see what you think!
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-28 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I will add it to the list!